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  • how do you uninstall an xampp installation that refuses to uninstall?

    - by Rick
    I downloaded xampp 1.7.3 (32) on windows 7 (64) in the programs(86) folder. both MySql and Apache refuse to run, they start and then instantly turn of. All ports are free. So I decide to uninstall however, when i run the uninstaller I receive the following error "Input Error: Can not find script file "C:\Program Files (x86)\xampp\uninst.temp\xampp_uninstall.vbs" XAMPP uninstall not OK Why is there spaces in the above line and does this matter "C:\Program Files (x86)" ? Can somebody please help me to understand the problem & uninstall xampp (or get it to work). It does not show in the control panel so I am stuck. All help is greatly appreciated. Thank you.

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  • What to do as a new team lead on a project with maintainability problems?

    - by Mr_E
    I have just been put in charge of a code project with maintainability problems. What things can I do to get the project on a stable footing? I find myself in a place where we are working with a very large multi-tiered .NET system that is missing a lot of the important things such as unit tests, IOC, MEF, too many static classes, pure datasets etc. I'm only 24 but I've been here for almost three years (this app has been in development for 5) and mostly due to time constraints we've been just adding in more crap to fit the other crap. After doing a number of projects in my free time I have begun to understand just how important all those concepts are. Also due to employee shifting I find myself to now be the team lead on this project and I really want to come up with some smart ways to improve this app. Ways where the value can be explained to management. I have ideas of what I would like to do but they all seem so overwhelming without much upfront gain. Any stories of how people have or would have dealt with this would be a very interesting read. Thanks.

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  • Cities from Space: A Tour of Urban Planning Patterns

    - by Jason Fitzpatrick
    While many cities developed haphazardly and organically with little structured planning, other cities were developed following strict organization–organization that reveals itself beautifully when seen from space. Wired magazine shares a roundup of ten well-planned cities viewed with a satellite’s eye. Among the roundup our favorite is the oldest, seen in the photo above: This nine-pointed fortress is perhaps the best example of a planned city from the Renaissance. Palmanova was built in 1593 and is located in the northeastern corner of Italy near the border with Slovenia. It was intended to be home to a completely self-reliant utopian community that could also defend itself against the Ottomans. It had three guarded entrances, ramparts between each of the star points and eventually a moat. Sadly, nobody was willing to move there. Eventually it was used as free housing for pardoned criminals. Today it is a national monument, a tourist destination and home to around 5,000 people. Hit up the link below to check out the other nine well-planned entries in the roundup. How To Boot Your Android Phone or Tablet Into Safe Mode HTG Explains: Does Your Android Phone Need an Antivirus? How To Use USB Drives With the Nexus 7 and Other Android Devices

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  • FOSS Development: Who develops the OS-specific packages?

    - by achristi
    I have a couple of FOSS projects. They can be a bit of a pain to get running unless you've got dependencies in place already, which I figure is par for the course for FOSS projects. We know that each free operating system out there has its own package management systems. A few of them, such as homebrew on Mac OS or AUR on Arch linux are very friendly to community contributions. What I am wondering is, who exactly is expected to contribute packages? Primarily I am concerned with the case of small or developing projects, since it's pretty standard for the big projects to be put in there by the OS maintainers. From my perspective, it is something of a chicken-egg problem, because your software will not make its way into a package system if it does not have users, and it is less likely to gain users if it is not easy to install and use. For the sake of discussion, let's assume that the software in question is actually legitimately useful. I can see where people could create crapware or spam and that should obviously be kept out of any package system. So, in summary, whose job is this? Is it spammy for a FOSS software dev to put his own work into various OS package repositories?

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  • Partner Webcast - Oracle Business Process Management: What’s new in Oracle BPM 11.1.1.7.0 - 04 July 2013

    - by Thanos
    Business processes are at the heart of what makes or breaks a business—and what differentiates it from the competition. Business processes that deliver operational efficiency, business visibility, excellent customer experience, and agility give the enterprise an edge over the competition. Business managers need process management tools that enable them to make impactful changes. Oracle has been always a leader in this area and the new version of Oracle BPM 11g takes that even further by providing complete web based process modeling, simulation and implementation including designing the user interface and business logic. That provides business users with ability to take complete control over the business processes without sacrificing the vast service integration capabilities delivered traditionally by IT using SOA approach. Oracle Business Process Management is the industry's most complete and business user-friendly BPM solution. Register today for this webcast and find out more on the latest and most exciting new features which are now available in Oracle BPM Suite. Agenda Introduction do Oracle BPM 11g Exciting new features in this release Revamped Process Composer Simulations Web Forms Process Player Adaptive Case Management Instance Revisioning Other features Demonstration Q&A Delivery Format This FREE online LIVE eSeminar will be delivered over the Web. Registrations received less than 24hours prior to start time may not receive confirmation to attend. Duration: 1 hour Register Now! For any questions please contact us at [email protected] Visit our ISV Migration Center blog & Facebook Page or Follow us @oracleimc  to learn more on Oracle Technologies, upcoming partner webcasts and events. Existing content available YouTube - SlideShare - Oracle Mix

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  • How can I upgrade Ubuntu from 9.10 to 10.04 on a netbook with a 4GB root partition?

    - by Blorgbeard
    I have an Asus EeePC 901, running Ubuntu 9.10. I'd like to upgrade it to 10.04. I don't want to reinstall, since I have a bunch of scripts and programs all set up. However, when I attempt to upgrade using sudo apt-get dist-upgrade, I get an error asking me to free up another ~600MB on /. My / is mounted on sda0, which is a 4GB SSD. I do not have 600MB worth of deletable stuff on /. I've emptied my trash, and done apt-get autoremove and apt-get clean. I do have plenty of space in /home, mounted on sda1 (a 16GB SSD). Is there some way I can tell apt-get to use a different download/temp directory?

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  • What software works well for viewing massive TIFF images on Windows 7?

    - by nhinkle
    Today I saw an article about a half-gig, 24000 square-pixel high-res composite image of the moon. (This is a much smaller version of the image) I find astronomy interesting, so I thought I'd download it and take a look. With 4GB of RAM and an i5 processor, I figured my computer could handle it. Unfortunately, the built-in Windows Picture Viewer didn't do such a great job. While it opened the file without a problem, zooming in was ineffective. The zoomed out image loaded, but zooming in just showed a scaled-up version of the zoomed-out version, not any detail: Closing the picture viewer also took a very long time, and the whole process used up much more RAM than the 500MB of the picture (usage went from 1.3GB to 3.8GB). What other software would work better for this? I would prefer something that is free and fairly simple. I don't really want to use an editor (like photoshop or GIMP), just a nice lightweight viewer. Any suggestions?

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  • How much space do NTFS hardlinks/symlinks occupy?

    - by Felix Dombek
    Well, I guess it must be something proportional to the original filename plus the new filename for symlinks, and only the new filename for hardlinks, but how does this affect the disk space exactly? I just made a folder with about a hundred thousand symbolic links in it, and the folder still reported 0 bytes usage. I may be mistaken, but I even think the free capacity of the drive remained the same. Then I permanently deleted the folder and the sizes still stayed the same. Could I fill up a hard disk just with symlinks? Or does NTFS have limitations in that no more than x symlinks are allowed on one drive/in one folder, so the capacity of the drive cannot be reached?

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  • Implementation Specialist OPN Exam for OBI Suite 11g is Now LIVE

    - by Mike.Hallett(at)Oracle-BI&EPM
    The OPN specialisation Exam for implementation consultants of OBI Suite 11g is now live and ready for all partners.  You can now update your specialisation certification to the latest product version 11g for OBI: until recently, the accreditation had examined skills for OBI 10g. For more details see Oracle Business Intelligence Foundation Suite 11g Essentials (1Z1-591) where you can apply for this Oracle Implementation Specialist credential. This exam is primarily intended for consultants that are skilled in implementing solutions based on Oracle Business Intelligence Foundation Suite 11g. The certification covers skills such as: installing OBIEE, building the BI Server metadata repository, building BI dashboards, constructing ad hoc queries, defining security settings and configuring and managing cache files. The exam targets the intermediate-level implementation team member. Up-to-date training and field experience are recommended.   Also Note the New OPN on-line Sales & Pre-sales Assessment Tests are available @ Oracle Business Intelligence Foundation Suite 11g Sales Specialist Oracle Business Intelligence Foundation Suite 11g PreSales Specialist Oracle Business Intelligence Foundation Suite 11g Support Specialist FREE Certification Testing at OpenWorld ·       Are you attending OPN Exchange @ OpenWorld ? Then join us at OPN Specialist Test Fest! October 1st - 4th 2012, Marriott Marquis Hotel :  Pre-register here now!   For More Information OPN Certified Specialist exams OPN Certified Specialist FAQ Enablement 2.0 Get Specialized!

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  • In Japan? Get the First Opportunity On The New Oracle Enterprise Manager 12c Partner Specialization Exam

    - by Get_Specialized!
    The Oracle Enterprise Manager 12c Essentials Implementation Exam, is now available in Beta for Oracle Partners. If your a Partner in Japan or a Partner attending Oracle OpenWorld 2012 in Tokyo April 4th-6th, take advantage of the opportunity to take the exam, at no charge,  onsite as part of the Oracle PartnerNetwork TestFest  http://www.oracle.com/partners/campaign/events/oowtokyo-testfest-1527771-ja.html  Just ask to take the exam having this number (1Z1-457) Don't happen to be in Japan next week?, no problem, Partners in other parts of the world can apply for one of the limited free beta exam vouchers by sending a request to this email address Normal 0 false false false EN-US X-NONE X-NONE MicrosoftInternetExplorer4 /* Style Definitions */ table.MsoNormalTable {mso-style-name:"Table Normal"; mso-tstyle-rowband-size:0; mso-tstyle-colband-size:0; mso-style-noshow:yes; mso-style-priority:99; mso-style-qformat:yes; mso-style-parent:""; mso-padding-alt:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt; mso-para-margin:0in; mso-para-margin-bottom:.0001pt; mso-pagination:widow-orphan; font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";} [email protected] In your email be sure to include your name, business email address, company name and the name of the exam  - Oracle Enterprise Manager 12c Essentials Implementation Exam (1Z1-457)

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  • Picking the right license

    - by nightcracker
    Hey, I have some trouble with picking the right license for my works. I have a few requirements: Not copyleft like the GNU (L)GPL and allows for redistribution under other licenses Allows other people to redistribute your (modified) work but prevents that other people freely make money off my work (they need to ask/buy a commercial license if they want to) Compatible with the GNU (L)GPL Not responsible for any damage caused by my work Now, I wrote my own little license based on the BSD and CC Attribution-NonCommercial 3.0 licenses, but I am not sure if it will hold in court. Copyright <year> <copyright holder>. All rights reserved. Redistribution of this work, with or without modification, are permitted provided that the following conditions are met: 1. All redistributions must attribute <copyright holder> as the original author or licensor of this work (but not in any way that suggests that they endorse you or your use of the work). 2. All redistributions must be for non-commercial purposes and free of charge unless specific written permission by <copyright holder> is given. This work is provided by <copyright holder> "as is" and any express or implied warranties are disclaimed. <copyright holder> is not liable for any damage arising in any way out of the use of this work. Now, you could help me by either: Point me to an existing license which is satisfies my requirements Confirm that my license has no major flaws and most likely would hold in court Thanks!

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  • Oracle OpenWorld 2012 Call For Papers Ends Monday 9-April at Midnight

    - by mdonohue
    September 30th seems a long way off now but the window of opportunity for a free pass to Oracle Open World is closing fast. Act now to share your BI Publisher success story with others and demonstrate your mastery and expertise. I know some of you are experts and it would be great for you to share what you know. Now is the time to submit your presentation abstract for review by the selection panel. The competition is strong: roughly 18% of entries are accepted each year from more than 3,000 submissions. Review panels are made up of experts both internal and external to Oracle. Successful submissions often (but not exclusively) focus on customer successes, how-tos, or technical topics. What’s in it for you? Recognition, for one thing. Accepted sessions are publicized in the content catalog, which goes live in mid-June, and sessions given by external speakers often prove the most popular. Plus, accepted speakers get a complimentary pass to Oracle OpenWorld (worth up to $2,595). More importantly that pass provides access to all sessions and networking events - priceless! So don’t delay - submit your session abstract now!

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  • video editing tool to color overlay a specific part

    - by Santosh
    I have downloaded a video from YouTube. But the uploader has put some link (their twitter and facebook) for promotional purpose. The links keeps coming up through out the video in the black area (up and down of the video which are black). Thank god that links are on the black part of the video otherwise it would be hard to remove.    Also I want to remove the the last few seconds of the video. I don't want to crop that part. The video is in MP4 format. I don't want to lose the quality in anyway, I won't mind if the file size increases. I want a opensource and free tool. Good if it is available to both Windows and Ubuntu. Here is a link to the video.

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  • Partner Webcast – Oracle Weblogic 12c for New Projects - 07 Nov 2013

    - by Thanos Terentes Printzios
    Fast-growing organizations need to stay agile in the face of changing customer, business or market requirements. Oracle WebLogic Server 12c is the industry's best application server platform that allows you to quickly develop and deploy reliable, secure, scalable and manageable enterprise Java EE applications.WebLogic Server Java EE applications are based on standardized, modular components. WebLogic Server provides a complete set of services for those modules and handles many details of application behavior automatically, without requiring programming. New project applications are created by Java programmers, Web designers, and application assemblers. Programmers and designers create modules that implement the business and presentation logic for the application. Application assemblers assemble the modules into applications that are ready to deploy on WebLogic Server. Build and run high-performance enterprise applications and services with Oracle WebLogic Server 12c, available in three editions to meet the needs of traditional and cloud IT environments. Join us, in this webcast, as we will show you how WebLogic Server 12c helps you building and deployingenterprise Java EE applications with support for new features for lowering cost of operations, improving performance, enhancing scalability. Agenda Oracle WebLogic Server Introduction Application Development on WebLogic Using Java EE Overview of the Application Deployment Process Monitoring Application Performance Q&A November 07th, 2013 -  9am UTC/11am EET Delivery FormatThis FREE online LIVE eSeminar will be delivered over the Web. Registrations received less than 24hours prior to start time may not receive confirmation to attend. Duration: 1 hour REGISTER NOW For any questions please contact us at partner.imc-AT-beehiveonline.oracle-DOT-com Stay Connected Oracle Newsletters

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  • Logfile software for making querys, extracting and other operations

    - by Juw
    I have written an app that connects to a server IIS 6 to retrieve information. When doing this i have collected data (phone model etc) and send it to the server with a regular GET HTTP call like this: http://www.myserver.com/getData.php?phonemodel=userphone&appversion=2&id=20 This is logged in the IIS logfiles. I thought of writing my own parser for log files. But why invent the wheel? I´m looking for a software that can read the IIS 6 logfiles. I would like it to be able to do: Extraction - Extract all lines that contains: www.myserver.com/getData Filtering - View all lines where http-code is not 200 Queries - View all lines where phonemodel=iphone Any tips on free software that can help me with this? Thanx in advance!

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  • What tools should I use to edit H.264 MP4 GoPro videos?

    - by WW.
    I have recorded videos using a GoPro, which produces MP4 files containing H.264 encoded videos. I would like to do some simple editing tasks on these videos without losing quality:- Cut various scenes together Change soundtrack I'm using Windows XP Pro so I have Windows Movie Maker which seems like it should be sufficient but can not read the MP4 files that I have. Can I install a codec to allow WMM to read the MP4 files? Can I convert from MP4 to something that WMM reads? Is there a different video editing program that I should use? Free software would be preferable, but I'm willing to pay if it's a superior solution.

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  • Endeca Information Discovery 3-Day Hands-on Training Boot-Camp

    - by Mike.Hallett(at)Oracle-BI&EPM
    For Oracle Partners, on October 15-17, 2012 in Paris, France: Register here. The Oracle Endeca Information Discovery (OEID) Boot-Camp is designed to give partners an understanding of OEID’s features, and how it complements the existing Oracle Business Intelligence suite. Participants will learn how to develop & implement solutions using a Data Discovery method.  Training is in English. What will be covered? The Oracle Endeca Information Discovery (OEID) Boot Camp is a three-day class with a combination of lecture and hands-on exercises, tailored to make participants aware of the Oracle Endeca Information Discovery platform, and to gain valuable skills for the implementation of projects.   Prerequisites You must bring a laptop with you for the Hands-on labs: Attendees should have experience and familiarity with the basic concepts of business intelligence and be OPN Partners with Gold or above membership.  This training is free to OPN Partners. Click here for more information. Where and When ? Monday, October 15th until Wednesday, October 17th included  9:00 - 18:00 Oracle France 15, boulevard Charles de Gaulle 92715 Colombes: Access Venue Map Register here  : NOTE there is a Limited number of seats, you will get confirmation within 2 weeks.

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  • Why am I getting 'undefined method' exceptions when executing 'run_list add', 'run_list remove' and 'rackspace server delete'?

    - by Peter Groves
    [Originally posted this to opscode forum, got no response] I’m testing out a free hosted chef-server account and multiple subcommands are failing with ‘Unexpected Errors’. Perhaps my version and the server version are incompatible? OS: Ubuntu 12.04LTS Local Chef: 10.12.0 (Installed through gem) Local Ruby: 1.8.7 Also, the workstation machine has been manually configured, but the client(s) I’ve been experimenting with are launched with the Rackspace plugin (using ‘knife rackspace server create…’) The problem commands seem to fail when talking to the host chef-server, however, before it ever tries to modify the client, so I don’t believe that’s where the problem exists. The virtual-servers that are launched by ‘knife rackspace server create’ are launched properly but then deleting them with knife fails. If I include a recipe in the run_list when I create the server, the recipe is properly added to the run_list. If I try to add it later or remove the one that there server was initialized with, those commands fail. Here is the output of a few relevant commands (with stacktraces): https://gist.github.com/7100ada3fd6690113697

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  • How can I optimize ubuntu desktop to run my webserver

    - by Parry
    Hi, I am using ubuntu desktop edition to run My drupal website on Intranet. I know for running web servers best thing to install is ubuntu server editions, but due to some problem i am using Desktop edition. I installed XAMPP on my machine an my website is up and running. I want to know how can i optimize my machine?? Since I will not use very less features of desktop editions are there any things which I can remove or stop which will free memory and cpu consumption, are there any packages which i should install to increase the performance of my ubuntu??

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  • PC boots on then off & 30 sec. later on again, it wiil shut off on itself mostly in idle or just unexpecticly

    - by Jody
    This problem started w/ my sons desktop, it would just shut off after a bit of work or stay on for a long time & to get it to unfreeze is to cold boot it, i put a new HDD in & I still have the same issue, RAM is good power supply fan is moving quite as well as all the rest of the fans it has stayed fairly dust free, i'm at a loss ,I have defaulted all the factory settings changed battery & ungraded to a new OS. I still have the same problem. the power light stays on after it has shut down & when upon starting it goes straight to safe mode option page, I start in last good config. reboots again takes 30 sec. to boot & will work again for a while, the only other thing I haven't tried was a graphic card replace, i'm onboard video now & have been.

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  • Partner Webcast - Oracle Data Integration Competency Center (DICC): A Niche Market for services

    - by Thanos Terentes Printzios
    Market success now depends on data integration speed. This is why we collected all best practices from the most advanced IT leaders, simply to prove that a Data Integration competency center should be the primary new IT team you should establish. This is a niche market with unlimited potential for partners becoming, the much needed, data integration services provider trusted by customers. We would like to elaborate with OPN Partners on the Business Value Assessment and Total Economic Impact of the Data Integration Platform for End Users, while justifying re-organizing your IT services teams. We are happy to share our research on: The Economical impact of data integration platform/competency center. Justifying strongest reasons and differentiators, using numeric analysis and best-practice in customer case studies from specific industries Utilizing diagnostics and health-check analysis in building a business case for your customers What exactly is so special in the technology of Oracle Data Integration Impact of growing data volume and amount of data sources Analysis of usual solutions that are being implemented so far, addressing key challenges and mistakes During this partner webcast we will balance business case centric content with extensive numerical ROI analysis. Join us to find out how to build a unified approach to moving/sharing/integrating data across the enterprise and why this is an important new services opportunity for partners. Agenda: Data Integration Competency Center Oracle Data Integration Solution Overview Services Niche Market For OPN Summary Q&A Delivery Format This FREE online LIVE eSeminar will be delivered over the Web. Registrations received less than 24hours prior to start time may not receive confirmation to attend. Presenter: Milomir Vojvodic, EMEA Senior Business Development Manager for Oracle Data Integration Product Group Date: Thursday, September 4th, 10pm CEST (8am UTC/11am EEST)Duration: 1 hour Register Today For any questions please contact us at [email protected]

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  • Automating the Backup of a SQL Server 2008 Express Database

    - by JaydPage
    Steps Involved: 1) Create a Database Backup Script. 2) Create a Scheduled Task To Run the Backup Script. 1 Create a Database Backup Script. a) Download and install SQL Server Management Studio. This is a free tool available on the Microsoft website. b) Once Management Studio is installed launch it and connect to the SQL server instance that contains the database that you want to back up. c) Right click on the database and then in the menu choose Tasks -> Back up... d) This will open up a window where you can choose your backup options, once you are happy with the options click on the "Script" button near the top and select the "Script Action to File" option. e) Save the File. 2 Create a Schedule Task to Run the Backup Script a) Open up Windows Task Scheduler. b) Create a new Task using the wizard, when asked to select a program browse to C:\Program Files\Microsoft SQL Server\100\Tools\binn\SQLCMD.exe c) There are 2 arguments that need to be set: -S \SERVER_INSTANCE_NAME  -i "PATH_OF_SQLBACKUP_SCRIPT" where SERVER_INSTANCE_NAME  is the name of the instance of SQL server that contains your database e.g. (local) and PATH_OF_SQLBACKUP_SCRIPT is the path of your backup script e.g. "C:\Program Files\Microsoft SQL Server\DatastoreBackup.sql" d) Adjust the task to run at the desired times and you are done.

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  • Is it viable to make a port from a C++ application to Java through LLVM

    - by Javier Mr
    how viable is it to port a C++ application to Java bytecode using LLVM (I guess LLJVM)? The thing is that we currently have a process written in C++ but a new client has made mandatory to been able to run the program in a multiplatform way, using the Java Virtual Machine with obviously no native code (no JNI). The idea is to be able to take the generated jar and copy then to different systems (Linux, Win, 32 bits - 64 bits) and it should just work. Looking around looks like it is possible to compile C++ to LLVM IR code and then that code to java bytecode. There is no need of the generated code to be readable. I have test a bit with similar things using emscripten, this takes C++ code and compile it to JavaScript. The result is valid JS but totally unreadable (looks like assambler). Does anybody done a port of an application from C++ to Java bytecode using this tecnique? What problems could we face? Is a valid approach for production code? Note: I am aware that currently we have some non standard C++ and close source libraries, we are looking to removing this non standard code and all close source libraries and use Free Libre Open Source Software, so lets suppose all code is standard C++ code with all code available at compile time. Note: It is not an option to write portable C++ code and then compile it to the desired target platform, the compiled program must be mltiplatform thus the use of JVM (right now we are not looking in similar solutions but Python or other language base, but i would also like to heard about it)

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  • What's the best tool to use to automatically backup selected folders from Windows to my external hard drive?

    - by PhD
    I have a 1TB external hard drive and I'd like to periodically schedule backups of my "Libraries" in Windows to the external drive. I'd prefer if it could detect what files have changed and periodically transfer them to the drive instead of I having to do it manually. Is there a way in Windows 7 to do this automatically? If not, what are some external tools (preferably free) that I can use for this? EDIT: I've used Windows back-up and I find it restrictive for detecting changes and backing up automatically. That's all that I'm aware of. My WD hard drive had something for this but the application doesn't work any more and it wasn't that good either. So, I wish to know what are my options.

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  • How can we best petition to bring Adobe creative software to Ubuntu?

    - by Sixthlaw
    Now I know its not as simple as asking for Adobe to support their design software on Ubuntu, but is there a way for the community and Canonical to make known to Adobe the rapidly growing amount of Linux users, and their desire for this great set of tools OFFICIALLY? I know that many of the answers I receive might be of the fashion "Its not going to happen", "use the free tools provided" or "Who knows it might happen in the near future", but this IS not what I am looking for. I have noticed, on sites like www.OmgUbuntu.com, there are links to pages where people can "like" the idea. Is there a way to try and get the whole community on board with this one, even Canonical, and as stated above, put forward this proposal to Adobe. The current requests for an Adobe CS, for Linux, are in dribs and drabs scattered all of the internet. Now is the best time to come up with productive solutions on how we can best gather statistics on the amount of people willing to buy the Adobe CS. These are the words of an Adobe employee: "I have forwarded this feedback on to the appropriate team who will consider it for future releases of Adobe software." The larger amount of people we have unified in the ONE community proposal, the greater chance we have of getting the software. How can we make this happen?

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