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  • Site doesn't show up. Instead a bunch of weird characters?

    - by Richard Knop
    ‹?????혱jÃ0†w=Å=AÜ ÂЃ)ÅKGÅ:¢En%¹©ß¾²Ý 7xèpußøãŸ~ÝöÇ®Ömót¨•îŸû®©îao‚½‘Í:ºR†æk@´huõÃ(]­;z:¼•Íö¾þ{¥•‚¾ímwi£_±Ä1)–ÄÇ?‡‘,‰%Ž#YKF²Ä²Ä8ŒèKF²$–88ŒdI,qpÉ’Xâà0’%±Ä1Àaþe–TïÆOŒ@ 2^ßÇh"ù¦`Î!뜄yœ"Dü˜0e°Ó:ËË>e„ñʈfp.à(U®<œv¿ì;xñhRY3˜‹¡?ÞdŒ;Uºõ×R°WkÑ^Z÷¥¯Wß.Ò¤·?? That's exactly what shows up instead of my website in the web browser. Though on localhost the website works great. It's a Zend Framework based website, on localhost the output looks something like this (shortened version): <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Strict//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-strict.dtd"> <html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" xml:lang="en" lang="en"> <head> <title>Title</title> <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8" /> <meta http-equiv="Content-Style-Type" content="text/css" /> <meta http-equiv="Content-Language" content="en-US" /> </head> <body> <!-- LOTS OF HTML HERE --> </body> </html> What could cause this problem? It used to work before, this bug has only appeared today (or maybe already yesterday, I'm not sure).

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  • Regular input in ASP.NET

    - by coffeeaddict
    Here's an example of a regular standard HTML input for my radiobuttonlist: <label><input type="radio" name="rbRSelectionGroup" checked value="0" />None</label> <asp:Repeater ID="rptRsOptions" runat="server"> <ItemTemplate> <div> <label><input type="radio" name="rbRSelectionGroup" value='<%# ((RItem)Container.DataItem).Id %>' /><%# ((RItem)Container.DataItem).Name %></label> </div> </ItemTemplate> </asp:Repeater> I removed some stuff for this thread, one being I put an r for some name that I do not want to expose here so just an fyi. Now, I would assume that this would or should happen: Page loads the first time, the None radio button is checked / defaulted I go and select a different radiobutton in this radiobutton list I do an F5 refresh in my browser The None radio button is pre-selected again after it has come back from the refresh but #4 is not happening. It's retaining the radiobutton that I selected in #2 and I don't know why. I mean in regular HTML it's stateless. So what could be holding this value? I want this to act like a normal input button. I know the question of "why not use an ASP.NET control" will come up. Well there are 2 reasons: The stupid radiobuttonlist bug that everyone knows about I just want to brush up more on standard input tags We are not moving to MVC so this is as close as I'll get and it's ok, because the rest of the team is on par with having mixed ASP.NET controls with standard HTML controls in our pages Anyway my main question here is I'm surprised that it's retaining the change in selection after postback.

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  • Find all the child node of specific value in C#

    - by sara brown
    <main> <myself> <pid>1</pid> <name>abc</name> </myself> <myself> <pid>2</pid> <name>efg</name> </myself> </main> that is my XML file named simpan. I have two button. next and previous. What i want to do is, all the info will shows off on the TextBox when the user click the button. The searching node will be based on the pid. Next button will adding 1 value of pid (let's say pid=2) and it will search on the node that have the same value of pid=2. it also will show the name for the pid=2. (showing name=abc) Same goes to the previous button where it will reduce 1value of pid (pid=1). Does anybody knows how to do this? //-------------EDIT------------------ thanks to L.B, im trying to use his code. however i got an error. is my implementation of code correct? private void previousList_Click(object sender, EventArgs e) { pid = 14; XDocument xDoc = XDocument.Parse("C:\\Users\\HDAdmin\\Documents\\Fatty\\SliceEngine\\SliceEngine\\bin\\Debug\\simpan.xml"); var name = xDoc.Descendants("myself") .First(m => (int)m.Element("PatientID") == pid) .Value; textETA.Text = name; //////////////////// }

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  • Rails helper module undefined method `sort'

    - by Magicked
    I'm trying to create a simple helper module in rails, and I'm stumped on the following error message from my new person form (app/views/people/new.html.erb): undefined method `sort' for 97:Fixnum Extracted source (around line #17): 14: <p> 15: <% nations = { 'United States of America' => 'USA', 'Canada' => 'Canada', 'Mexico' => 'Mexico', 'United Kingdom' => 'UK' } %> 16: <%= f.label :country %><br /> 17: <%= radio_buttons(:person, :country, nations) %> 18: 19: </p> 20: <p> radio_buttons is a helper module I have created for my view. Here it is (app/helpers/people_helper.rb): module PeopleHelper def radio_buttons(model_name, target_property, button_source) html='' list = button_source.sort list.each do |x| html << radio_buttons(model_name, target_property, x[1]) html << h(x[0]) html << '<br />' end return html end end The problem appears to be on the "list = button_source.sort", but I'm not sure why it says the method is undefined. I have been able to use it directly within my view code. Am I not able to use methods like this within helper modules? Do I need to include something? Thanks for any help!

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  • C# Fun with Generics - Mutual Dependencies

    - by Kenneth Cochran
    As an experiment I'm trying to write a generic MVP framework. I started with: public interface IPresenter<TView> where TView: IView<IPresenter<... { TView View { get; set;} } public interface IView<TPresenter> where TPresenter:IPresenter<IView<... { TPresenter Presenter { get; set; } } Obviously this can't work because the types of TView and TPresenter can't be resolved. You'd be writing Type<Type<... forever. So my next attempt looked like this: public interface IView<T> where T:IPresenter { ... } public interface IView:IView<IPresenter> { } public interface IPresenter<TView> where TView: IView { ... } public interface IPresenter: IPresenter<IView> { ... } This actually compiles and you can even inherit from these interfaces like so: public class MyView : IView, IView<MyPresenter> { ... } public class MyPresenter : IPresenter, IPresenter<MyView> { ... } The problem is in the class definition you have to define any members declared in the generic type twice. Not ideal but it still compiles. The problem's start creeping up when you actually try to access the members of a Presenter from a View or vice versa. You get an Ambiguous reference when you try to compile. Is there any way to avoid this double implementation of a member when you inherit from both interfaces? Is it even possible to resolve two mutually dependent generic types at compile time?

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  • css caption issue

    - by Moode Osman
    i have problem with caption to make caption appear under each photo when hover over it but thr problem here they appear all on one side one place the left bottom side here the code for HTML <div id="content2"> <ul style="width: 5020px; height: 600px;"> <li class="image" style="width: 392px;"><img src="images/pr1x.jpg" ><p class="caption">1st caption</p></li> <li class="image" style="width: 392px;"><img src="images/pr2x.jpg" ><p class="caption">2st caption</p></li> </ul></div> here the code for CSS li.image p.caption { position:absolute; display: none; font-size: 28px; color: red; } li.image:hover p.caption { display: list-item; }? #content2{ width: 150%; height: 600px; float:left; overflow:hidden; } #content2 p{ width: 150%; } .scrollbar-hor{ background-color: #e5e2de; height: 24px; width: 150%; float:left; } .handle-hor{ height: 25px; width: 400px; background: url(http://brafitting.info/images/bar.jpg) no-repeat; } plz help ty

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  • Asp.Net Basic Program

    - by Abid Ali
    I want to Visible the combo Box named Cities when i click the Country Pakistan.. but the combo box visibility remains Hidden.. how do i do so ? I think my Code is correct but it is not working :s .. Help Required.. <select id="Items" name = "Countries"> <option id="Pakistan" onclick="VisibileTrue()">Pakistan</option> <option id = "Taiwan">Taiwan</option> </select> <select id="Items2" name="Cities" style="display:none" > <option>Karachi</option> <option>Sindh</option> </select> </div> </form> function VisibileTrue() { var element = document.getElementById(Pakistan); if(element == Pakistan) { var element2 = document.getElementsByTagName("Items2"); element2.style.display = "inline"; } }

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  • Submit form using javascript, work in FF but not in IE

    - by Permana
    I have this code. The code below is working in Firefox, but it is not in IE <body> <?php $data = getLoginData($_SESSION['whoyouare']); ?> <form name="frm_redirect_dfr" action="<?php echo $data['url']; ?>" method="POST" id="frm_redirect_dfr" style="display: none;"> <input name="DFRNet_User" value="<?php echo $data['username']; ?>" type="hidden" /> <input name="DFRNet_Pass" value="<?php echo $data['password']; ?>" type="hidden" /> <input name="tbllogin" value="login" type="hidden" /> <input type="submit" value="submit" /> </form> <script language="javascript" type="text/javascript"> document.forms["frm_redirect_dfr"].submit(); </script> </body> What I want to do is, when user access the page, it first will try to get login data, echo it in the form, and submit the form automatically using javascript

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  • Is it possible to split HTML using DOMDocument?

    - by Lynn Adrianna
    Using DOMDocument, is it possible to split a block of HTML by text wrapped in tags and those that are not, while maintaining the order? Sorry, if this doesn't make sense. My example should make it clear. Let's say I have the following block of HTML: text1<b style="color:pink">text2</b>text3<b>text4</b> <b style="font-weight:bold">text5</b> Is it possible create an array as such: array( [0] => text1 [1] => <b style="color:pink">text2</b> [2] => text3 [3] => <b>text4</b> [4] => [5] => <b style="font-weight:bold">text5</b> ) Below is my current working solution, which uses a regular expression, to split the HTML. $tokens = preg_split('/(<b\b[^>]*>.*?<\/b>)/i', $html, null, PREG_SPLIT_DELIM_CAPTURE); However, I always read that it is a bad idea to parse HTML using regular expressions, so was just wondering if there is a better way.

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  • How to define a default tooltip style for all Controls

    - by skjagini
    I would like to define a style with a template when there are validation errors and would display the first error message as a tooltip. It works fine when targeting specific control like DatePicker in the following xaml. <Style TargetType="{x:Type ToolKit:DatePicker}"> <Style.Triggers> <Trigger Property="Validation.HasError" Value="true"> <Setter Property="ToolTip" Value="{Binding RelativeSource={RelativeSource Self}, Path=(Validation.Errors)[0].ErrorContent}"/> </Trigger> </Style.Triggers> </Style> I cannot get it to work for Control though, i.e. the following doesn't give any tooltip <Style TargetType="{x:Type ToolKit:Control}"> <Style.Triggers> <Trigger Property="Validation.HasError" Value="true"> <Setter Property="ToolTip" Value="{Binding RelativeSource={RelativeSource Self}, Path=(Validation.Errors)[0].ErrorContent}"/> </Trigger> </Style.Triggers> </Style> Any idea?

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  • jQuery: find selector only works with IDs and not classes ?

    - by Patrick
    hi, does the "find" method work in jQuery with classes selectors ? For example: var tagsDiv = $(".node-form .taxonomy-super-select-checkboxes").find("div.fieldset-wrapper"); doesn't work. But var tagsDiv = $(".node-form .taxonomy-super-select-checkboxes").find("div#edit-taxonomy-tags-1-wrapper"); works. This is the html code: ... <fieldset class=" collapsible"> <legend class="collapse-processed"> <a href="#">Tags <span class="form-required" title="This field is required.">*</span> </a> </legend> <div class="fieldset-wrapper"> <div class="form-item" id="edit-taxonomy-tags-1-wrapper"> <label for="edit-taxonomy-tags-1">Enter New Tags: </label> </div> </div> </fieldset> ... thanks

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  • Calling subactivity from subactivity

    - by yogsma
    I have three activities in my android app. First activity is main application screen which gives option to open second screen containing second activity. But when I click on the button on second activity which was supposed to open third activity screen, I get "Application has stopped unexpectedly" error. <?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8"?> <manifest xmlns:android="http://schemas.android.com/apk/res/android" package="org.anddev.android.SampleApp" android:versionCode="1" android:versionName="1.0"> <application android:icon="@drawable/icon" android:label="@string/app_name"> <activity android:name=".FirstActivity" android:label="@string/app_name"> <intent-filter> <action android:name="android.intent.action.MAIN" /> <category android:name="android.intent.category.LAUNCHER" /> </intent-filter> </activity> <activity android:name=".SecondActivity" android:label="@string/app_name" > </activity> <activity android:name=".ThirdActivity" android:label="@string/app_name" > </activity> </application>

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  • Sticky/static variable references in for loops

    - by pthulin
    In this example I create three buttons 'one' 'two' 'three'. When clicked I want them to alert their number: <html> <head> <script type="application/javascript" src="jquery.js"></script> <script type="application/javascript"> $(document).ready(function() { var numbers = ['one', 'two', 'three']; for (i in numbers) { var nr = numbers[i]; var li = $('<li>' + nr + '</li>'); li.click(function() { var newVariable = String(nr); alert(i); // 2 alert(nr); // three alert(newVariable); // three alert(li.html()); // three }); $('ul').append(li); } }); </script> </head> <body> <ul> </ul> </body> </html> The problem is, when any of these are clicked, the last value of the loop's variables is used, i.e. alert box always says 'three'. In JavaScript, variables inside for-loops seem to be 'static' in the C language sense. Is there some way to create separate variables for each click function, i.e. not using the same reference? Thanks!

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  • functions with same names in javascript

    - by biju
    Hi, I tried to write a function on a js file and another function with the same name in the page.I expected an error but no error came and i got only the function from the js file to execute.How is this possible.Even if i write a function in a separate js file,everything is rendered in a single html file.Then how come it is possible <script type="text/javascript" language="javascript" src="JScript.js" /> <script language="javascript"> function Boo() { alert("Hai new"); } </script> <head runat="server"> <title></title> </head> <body> <form id="form1" runat="server"> <div> <asp:Button runat=server OnClientClick="Boo();" Text="Click" /> </div> </form> </body> and in the js file function Boo() { alert("Hai"); }

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  • how to send value to the from action page from database

    - by Mayank swami
    I am creating a faq panel for there can be multiple answers for question and i want to take the answer id .because i am storing comment by answer id the problem is that how to sent the $answer_id to the comment_submit_process.php and how to recognize the answer ? $selected_ques= mysql_prep($_GET['ques']); $query = "SELECT * FROM formanswer where question_id = {$selected_ques}"; $ans= mysql_query($query); if($ans){ while($answer = mysql_fetch_array($ans)) //here is the form <form id="add-comment" action="comment_submit_process.php" > <textarea class="comment-submit-textarea" cols="78" name="comment" style="height: 64px;"></textarea> <input type="submit" name="submitbutton" value="Add Comment" class="comment-submit-button" > <br> <?php $ans_id= $answer['id']; echo $ans_id; ?> <input type="hidden" name="ques" value="<?php echo $_GET['$ans_id'] ?>" /> <span class="counter ">enter at least 15 characters</span> <span class="form-error"></span> </form> <?php }} ?>

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  • Spring Security 3.0- Customise basic http Authentication Dialog

    - by gav
    Rather than reading; A user name and password are being requested by http://localhost:8080. The site says: "Spring Security Application" I want to change the prompt, or at least change what the "site says". Does anyone know how to do this via resources.xml? In my Grails App Spring configuration, my current version is as follows; <?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?> <beans:beans xmlns="http://www.springframework.org/schema/security" xmlns:beans="http://www.springframework.org/schema/beans" xmlns:xsi="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance" xsi:schemaLocation="http://www.springframework.org/schema/beans http://www.springframework.org/schema/beans/spring-beans-3.0.xsd http://www.springframework.org/schema/security http://www.springframework.org/schema/security/spring-security-3.0.xsd"> <http auto-config="true" use-expressions="true"> <http-basic/> <intercept-url pattern="/**" access="isAuthenticated()" /> </http> <authentication-manager alias="authenticationManager"> <authentication-provider> <user-service> <user name="admin" password="admin" authorities="ROLE_ADMIN"/> </user-service> </authentication-provider> </authentication-manager> </beans:beans>

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  • relative url in wcf service binding

    - by Jeremy
    I have a silverlight control which has a reference to a silverlight enabled wcf service. When I add a reference to the service in my silverlight control, it adds the following to my clientconfig file: <configuration> <system.serviceModel> <bindings> <basicHttpBinding> <binding name="BasicHttpBinding_DataAccess" maxBufferSize="2147483647" maxReceivedMessageSize="2147483647"> <security mode="None" /> </binding> </basicHttpBinding> </bindings> <client> <endpoint address="http://localhost:3097/MyApp/DataAccess.svc" binding="basicHttpBinding" bindingConfiguration="BasicHttpBinding_DataAccess" contract="svcMyService.DataAccess" name="BasicHttpBinding_DataAccess" /> </client> </system.serviceModel> </configuration> How do I specify a relative url in the endpoint address instead of the absolute url? I want it to work no matter where I deploy the web app to without having to edit the clientconfig file, because the silverlight component and the web app will always be deployed together. I thought I'd be able to specify just "DataAccess.svc" but it doesn't seem to like that.

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  • c++ multithread

    - by chnet
    I use c++ to implement a thread class. The code is in the following. I initialize two objects, wish it will start two threads (I use pthread_self() to look the thread Id). But the result shows that there is only one thread beside the main thread. I am a bit confused... class Thread { public: int mask; pthread_t thread; Thread( int ); void start(); static void * EntryPoint (void *); void Run(); }; Thread::Thread( int a) { mask =a; } void Thread::Run() { cout<<"thread begin to run" <<endl; cout <<" Thread Id is: "<< pthread_self() << endl; // the same thread Id. } void * Thread::EntryPoint(void * pthis) { cout << "entry" <<endl; Thread *pt = (Thread *) pthis; pt->Run(); } void Thread::start() { pthread_create(&thread, NULL, EntryPoint, (void *)ThreadId ); pthread_join(thread, NULL); } int main() { int input_array[8]={3,1,2,5,6,8,7,4}; Thread t1(1); Thread t2(2); t1.start(); t2.start() }

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  • :first-child fails when an element of a different class is dynamically inserted above

    - by koko
    So, I've encountered a situation where inserting an element of a different class/id breaks all css-rules on that :first-child. <div id="nav"> <div class="nSub">abcdef</div> <div class="nSub">abcdef</div> <div class="nSub">abcdef</div> <div class="nSub">abcdef</div> <div class="nSub">abcdef</div> </div> .nSub:first-child { margin-top:15px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:5px; /* ... */ } .nSub { background:#666; /* ... */ } .nSub:last-child { -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:5px; /* ... */ } As soon as I insert an element of another class/id above, like this: $('nav').insert({top:'<div id="newWF"></div>'}); all declarations for .nSub:first-child are being ignored in both FF 3.6 and Safari 4.

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  • How to customize Bootstrap typeahead layout/function for more than just text?

    - by Loolooii
    I'm working on a search functionality for my website and I'm using Bootstrap's typeahead to show the results. So far so good. But what I want is to extend the function so that I could add an image and some other item, say description, etc. According to this post, that is possible: custom typeahead. Basically I need something like this as each result item: <div class="resultContainer"> <div class="resultImage"><img /></div> <div class="resultDesc"></div> <div class="resultLabel"></div> </div> Now it's: <li><a href="#"></a></li> And this doesn't even work with a longer text than the width of the typeahead. So the text doesn't go to the next line and hence doesn't fit the <li>. How can I use the the custom layout I want? (btw I have an array of arrays of results. Each sub-array contains img, desc, etc.). This is what I have right now: Thanks in advance.

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  • org.hibernate.PropertyNotFoundException

    - by niru
    hi i am new to hibernate, i m using the following code and getting the following error public class OperProfile { private String empId; private long age; private String name; public long getAge() { return age; } public void setAge(long age) { this.age = age; } public String getEmpId() { return empId; } public void setEmpId(String empId) { this.empId = empId; } public String getName() { return name; } public void setName(String name) { this.name = name; } } i am getting this error org.hibernate.PropertyNotFoundException: Could not find a getter for age in class com.fmr.OperProfile my hbm.xml file is <hibernate-mapping> <class name="com.fmr.OperProfile" table="EMPLOYEE" dynamic-update="true"> <id name="empId" type="java.lang.String" column="EMP_ID"> <generator class="assigned" /> </id> <property name="name" type="java.lang.String" column="NAME"/> <property name=" age" type="java.lang.Long" column="AGE" not-null="true" /> <property name="address1" type="java.lang.String" column="ADDRESS1" /> <property name="address2" type="java.lang.String" column="ADDRESS2" /> <property name="city" type="java.lang.String" column="CITY" /> <property name="state" type="java.lang.String" column="STATE" /> <property name="pincode" type="java.lang.Long" column="PINCODE" /> </class> </hibernate-mapping> please can anyone help me

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  • Got problem when uploading the html into the webview in iphone sdk.

    - by Monish Kumar
    Hi Guy's NSString* appendString=@""; appendString = [appendString stringByAppendingString:@"<body>"]; appendString =[appendString stringByAppendingString:@"<table background='footer.png' width='320' height='45' style='background-repeat:no-repeat'>"]; appendString =[appendString stringByAppendingString:@"<tr>"]; appendString =[appendString stringByAppendingString:@"<td align='left' width='57' height='31' style='padding: 6px 0 0 0' ><a href='/map/'><img src='details_Back.png'/></a></td>"]; appendString =[appendString stringByAppendingString:@"<td align='left' valign='middle' style='padding: 0 0 0 65px; font-family:Helvetica; font-size:21px ; font-weight:bold ; color:#FFF'>Details</td>"]; appendString =[appendString stringByAppendingString:@"</tr>"]; appendString =[appendString stringByAppendingString:@"</table>"]; appendString =[appendString stringByAppendingString:@"<br>"]; returnString = [returnString stringByReplacingOccurrencesOfString:@"<body>" withString:appendString]; printf("\n return string :%s",[returnString UTF8String]); [myWebView loadHTMLString:returnString baseURL:[NSURL URLWithString:@"http://abc.api.abcdefg.com/"]]; here in the above code the footer.png and details_back.png are the local images stored in my resource folder. Here the problem is I am gettin the background image from the server link I had passed to the webview as baseurl but the images footer.png and details_back.png which were stored in resource is not displayed. if I use the resource bundle as the baseurl then I am not displayed the background image from the server link. Can anyone please give me the suggestions to get rid of rid of this problem. thanks to all guy's, Monish.

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  • Overflow in table cells

    - by Ezdaroth
    I need to create a chat layout that uses all the available space and scales nicely, but has few fixed sizes. Here's the structure: <table style="width: 100%; height: 100%"> <tr> <td></td> <td style="width: 200px; background: red;"></td> </tr> <tr> <td style="height: 100px; background: blue"></td> <td></td> </tr> </table> However, I want to place a lot of content in the first table cell and I want it to scroll, so it won't expand the table. Is it possible to make it overflow properly, without having a fixed height for the cell? Simply adding overflow: auto doesn't seem to work. PS. I hate tables, but can't figure out a very clean and cross-browser way to do a layout like this with divs and css. If someone can come up with one, I'll gladly use it.

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  • adding an uncertain number of fields using javascript

    - by user306472
    I'm new to javascript and a novice programmer, so this might be a really easy question to answer. I would like to loop over the values of x number of fields and add them up to display the sum in a final field. I can perform this function if I explicitly call each field, but I want to abstract this so I can deal with a flexible number of fields. Here's example code I've come up with (that's not working for me). Where am I going wrong? <html> <head> <script type="text/javascript"> function startAdd(){ interval = setInterval("addfields()",1); } function addfields(){ a = document.addition.total.value; b = getElementByTagName("sum").value; for (i=0; i<=b.length; i++){ a+=i; } return a; } function stopAdd(){ clearInterval(interval); } </script> </head> <body> <form name="addition"> <input type="text" name="sum" onFocus="startAdd();" onBlur="stopAdd;"> + <input type="text" name="sum" onFocus="startAdd();" onBlur="stopAdd;"> = <input type="text" name ="total"> </form> </body> </html>

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  • upgrading to spring 3.0 problem with interceptorNames

    - by mkoryak
    I am trying to upgrade to Spring 3.0 and i have the following issues: Finding the dependencies. People recommend using maven, but id rather not try to learn how to use maven/install it if the jars are available somewhere for download. The following bean declaration is now longer valid but i dont know how to fix it: <bean id="service" class="org.springframework.aop.framework.ProxyFactoryBean"> <property name="proxyInterfaces" value="com.service.SomeService" /> <property name="target"> <bean class="com.service.SomeServiceImpl"> </bean> </property> <property name="interceptorNames"> <list> <value>hibernateInterceptor</value> </list> </property> </bean> The complaint is that <property name="interceptorNames"> is no longer supported and should be done some other way

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