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  • UI Controls layer on top of operating system.

    - by Mason Blier
    I'm kind of curious about what layer writing a UI platform to the level of Win32 or the X Windowing System would fall in the grand scheme of an operating system. What layers below do they primarily make use of, is it heavily based on direct communication with the graphics card driver (I can't imagine going though a rendering pipeline like OpenGL for this), or is there a graphical platform as part of the operating system which extracts this out a little more. I'm also interested in the creation of shells and the like, and I"m particularly curious as to how people go about creating alternative shells for windows, what do people look for when figuring out what methods to call or what to hook into, etc? I guess I'm fairly lost at these concepts and finding it difficult to find documentation on them. I was initially excited to have taken Operating Systems in college but it was all low level resource management stuff. Thanks all, Mason

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  • Cloning java ArrayList and preventing it from modifications

    - by user222164
    I have a data structure like a database Rowset, which has got Rows and Rows have Columns. I need to initialize a Columns with null values, current code is to loop thru each column for a row and initialize values to NULL. Which is very inefficient if you have 100s or rows and 10s of column. So instead I am keeping a initialized ArrayList of columns are RowSet level, and then doing a clone of this Arraylist for individual rows, as I believe clone() is faster than looping thru each element. row.columnsValues = rowsset.NullArrayList.clone() Problem with this is NullArrayList can be accidentally modified after being cloned, thus sacrificing the integrity of ArrayList at RowSet level, to prevent I am doing 3 things 1) Delcaring ArrayList as final 2) Any elements I insert are final or null 3) Methods thurough this arrayList are passed to other arrays are declared a final. Sounds like a plan, do you see any holes ?

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  • Why Banks or Financial Companies prefer Oracle than other RDBMS for their "Core" systems?

    - by edwin.nathaniel
    I'd like to know why most Banks or Financial companies prefer Oracle than other RDBMS for their core systems (the absolutely minimum features that a Bank must support). I found a few answers that didn't satisfy me. For example: Oracle has more features. But features for what? Can't you implement that in application level if you were not using Oracle? Could someone please describe a bit more technical but still on high-level overview of what the bank needs and how Oracle would solve it and the others can't or don't have the features yet? I came from the web-app (web 2.0) crowd who normally hear news about MySQL, PostgreSQL or even key-value/column-oriented storage solution. I have almost zero knowledge on how Banks or Financial companies operates from technical perspective. Thank you, Ed

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  • Nginx is sending proxy saved conent in gzip format

    - by Sandeep Manne
    Hi I used config given in this http://www.webtatic.com/blog/2008/04/page-level-caching-with-nginx/ for page level caching of php content the problem is that the cached page is saving in gzip format and it returning same gzip content to browser. I need the o/p like this "12:15:37 12:15:47" (Its coming for 1st time when the page is not cached) after that if request is resend it is returning ‹??????34²26±24à23Œ¸¸?`Î9”??? (gzip response as I tried zcat its returning fine) Response Headers Server nginx/0.8.34 Date Wed, 17 Mar 2010 07:04:58 GMT Content-Type text/html Last-Modified Wed, 17 Mar 2010 07:04:20 GMT Transfer-Encoding chunked Connection keep-alive Vary Accept-Encoding Expires Wed, 17 Mar 2010 07:04:58 GMT Cache-Control max-age=0 Content-Encoding gzip Request Headers Host localhost User-Agent Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.0.18) Gecko/2010021501 Ubuntu/9.04 (jaunty) Firefox/3.0.18 GTB6 Accept text/html,application/xhtml+xml,application/xml;q=0.9,/;q=0.8 Accept-Language en-us,en;q=0.5 Accept-Encoding gzip,deflate Accept-Charset ISO-8859-1,utf-8;q=0.7,*;q=0.7 Keep-Alive 300 Connection keep-alive

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  • Any way to speed up this hierarchical query?

    - by RenderIn
    I've got a serious performance problem with a hierarchical query that I can't seem to fix. I am modeling several organization charts in my database, each representing a virtual organization within our company. For example, we have several temporary committees that are created from time to time and there may be a Committee Organizer role at the top of this virtual hierarchy, with several people assigned to the Committee Member role beneath the organizer. Some of our virtual organizations have many levels and several branches at each level. I have a single table in which I represent all the role assignments. i.e. a ROLE_ID column and a PARENT_ROLE_ID column which is a foreign key to the ROLE_ID column. For each assignment we also store as a column the location in the company where this person has the assignment. For example, the Committee Organizer would have a company-level/ CEO assignment, while the committee members would have department-level assignments such as ACCOUNTING, MARKETING, etc. So to model the organizer/member relationship for two individuals we would have: ROLE_ID = 4 PARENT_ROLE_ID = NULL EMPLOYEE_NUMBER = 213423 COMPANY_LOCATION = CEO ROLE_ID = 5 PARENT_ROLE_ID = 4 EMPLOYEE_NUMBER = 838221 COMPANY_LOCATION = ACCOUNTING Here's where things get tricky. I have an application that every person in the organization can log in to. When they log in they should be able to view all the virtual organizations in our company. e.g. the committee members should be able to see the committee organizer and vice-versa. However, only the committee organizer should be able to edit the committee members. The difficulty is in determining whether an individual (who can have multiple role assignments) has edit access for each other assignment. While this seems simple in the example, consider a virtual organization in which we have President at the top, 5 departments directly beneath him, 2 subdepartments below each department. We only want people in the Accounting department to be able to edit individuals in the subdepartments belonging to the Accounting department. They should not have edit access to anybody in the Marketing department or its subdepartments. To determine edit access when a user views a virtual organization in our company I run a query that executes two inline views: A) Hierarchically query for all assignments in this virtual organization and using SYS_CONNECT_BY_PATH to store the entire path to each user/role/company_location and B) Hierarchically retrieve all the assignments the individual logged in has and using the SYS_CONNECT_BY_PATH to store the entire path to each of these assignments. The result of the query is all the records from A) plus a boolean determined by joining with B) which flags whether the logged in user has edit access for each record. Indexes don't seem to be helping... it simply appears that there is too much processing going on to separate all the records and then determine edit access. One issue is that I can't store the SYS_CONNECT_BY_PATH and index it... determining whether an individual record has edit access consists of comparing if: test_record_sys_path LIKE individual_record_sys_path || '%' Is a materialized view the answer?

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  • mysqli insert problem

    - by Simon
    Hello i have this error: Warning: mysqli_stmt::bind_param() [mysqli-stmt.bind-param]: Number of elements in type definition string doesn't match number of bind variables in E:\wamp\www\classes\UserLogin.php on line 31 and i dont know what it is :/ here is my code function createUser($username, $password) { $mysql = connect(); if($stmt = $mysql->prepare('INSERT INTO users (username, password, alder, hood, fornavn, efternavn, city, ip, level, email) VALUES (?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?)')) { $stmt->bind_param($username,$password, $alder, $hood, $fornavn, $efternavn, $city, $ip, $level, $email); $stmt->execute(); $stmt->close(); } else { echo 'error: ' . $mysql->error; } then my user create the user they only need to type username and password, and later they can edit the profile and edit, email,alder,hood and like that :). Thanks for helping me

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  • Ask Basic Configurator in Apache Commong Log

    - by adisembiring
    I use log4j as logger for my web application. in log4j, I can set the level log in log4j properties or log4j.xml. in log4j, we instance logger as follows: static Logger logger = Logger.getLogger(SomeClass.class); I init log4j basic configurator in a servlet file using init method. But, I usually test application using JUnit, So I init the basic configurator in setup method. after that, I test the application, and I can see the log. Because I deployed, the web in websphere. I change all of logging instance become: private Log log = LogFactory.getLog(Foo.class); I don't know how to load basic configurator using ACL. so I can't control debug level to my JUnit test. do you have any suggestion, without changing static Logger logger = Logger.getLogger(SomeClass.class); become static Logger logger = Logger.getLogger(SomeClass.class);

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  • Why isn't Hadoop implemented using MPI?

    - by artif
    Correct me if I'm wrong, but my understanding is that Hadoop does not use MPI for communication between different nodes. What are the technical reasons for this? I could hazard a few guesses, but I do not know enough of how MPI is implemented "under the hood" to know whether or not I'm right. Come to think of it, I'm not entirely familiar with Hadoop's internals either. I understand the framework at a conceptual level (map/combine/shuffle/reduce and how that works at a high level) but I don't know the nitty gritty implementation details. I've always assumed Hadoop was transmitting serialized data structures (perhaps GPBs) over a TCP connection, eg during the shuffle phase. Let me know if that's not true.

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  • Need help with Java Producer Consumer Problem, NullPointerException

    - by absk
    This is my code: package test; import java.util.logging.Level; import java.util.logging.Logger; class Data{ int ar[]=new int[50]; int ptr; Data() { for(int i=0;i<50;i++) ar[i]=0; ptr=0; } public int produce() { if(this.ptr<50) { this.ar[this.ptr]=1; this.ptr++; return this.ptr; } else return -1; } public int consume() { if(this.ptr>0) { this.ar[this.ptr]=0; this.ptr--; return this.ptr; } else return -1; } } class Prod implements Runnable{ private Main m; Prod(Main mm) { m=mm; } public void run() { int r = m.d.produce(); if (r != -1) { System.out.println("Produced, total elements: " + r); } else { try { wait(); } catch (InterruptedException ex) { Logger.getLogger(Prod.class.getName()).log(Level.SEVERE, null, ex); } } } } class Cons implements Runnable{ private Main m; Cons(Main mm) { m=mm; } public void run() { int r=m.d.consume(); if(r!=-1) System.out.println("Consumed, total elements: " + r); else { try { wait(); } catch (InterruptedException ex) { Logger.getLogger(Prod.class.getName()).log(Level.SEVERE, null, ex); } } notify(); } } public class Main{ Data d; public static void main(String s[]) throws InterruptedException{ Main m = new Main(); Prod p = new Prod(m); Cons c = new Cons(m); new Thread(p).start(); new Thread(c).start(); } } It is giving following errors: Exception in thread "Thread-0" Exception in thread "Thread-1" java.lang.NullPointerException at test.Cons.run(Main.java:84) at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:619) java.lang.NullPointerException at test.Prod.run(Main.java:58) at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:619) I am new to Java. Any help will be appreciated.

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  • Complex Django filter question

    - by HWM-Rocker
    Lets say I have this class (simplified): class Tag (...): children = models.ManyToManyField(null=True, symmetrical=False) Now I already implemented the functions get_parents, get_all_ancestors. Is there a nice pythonic way to just the top level tags? If I had designed my Tags differently (to point to the parents instead) I would just make get_all_parents().filter(children=null). My first thought is to create a new function that will go recursively through all parents and save those that has none. But is there a possibility with filters or Query-objects to do the same (with fewer lines of code)? Thanks for your help. [edit] When it is finished, it should be a hierarchical tagging system. Each tag can have children, parents, but only the children are saved. I want to get all the top level tags, that point through many children / childrens children to my tag.

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  • Some basic COM question...

    - by smwikipedia
    I have just finished my first COM server DLL. And it runs smoothly. So I'd like to show my understanding for now and hear your critics. 1- How COM simply works? COM - "The Call Chain" COM Lib methods - Traditional DLL exports - Classes encapsulated in the COM DLL 2- With C++, the benefits like "interface" in OOP can only be taken advantage of at the source level. With COM, these benefits can be used at a binary level. 3- Some illustration about interface &pInterface ------- pInterface ---------- Interface----------------- methods Ixx ** Ixx * (method table) (void **) A Interface is a data structure in memory. It's nothing but a memory area containg a method table. Is my understanding alright? Thanks for your revision.

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  • How should I measure Concurrent Licence Usage

    - by Andrew Wood
    Hi I have detailed stats on user access to my system detailing login and logout times as well as machine used, network username etc. I am in need of measuring what I would term a concurrent user licences level based on this information. Now I could take the maximum logged in for any 1 day in a 3 month period say 170 or I could take the average say 133. Does anyone have or know of a formula for working this out or is it as simple as the high water mark which is 170 in my example. A client has recently gone from an unlimited licence to a concurrent licence so I am faced with the task of setting the initial licence level. There is potential for more licence sales in the future so I don't want it set to high and I do want it based on historical data that the system collects rather than guess work.

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  • Trying to configure HWIC-3G-HSPA

    - by user1174838
    I'm trying to configure a couple of Cisco 1941 routes. The are both identical routers. Each as a HWIC-1T (Smart Serial interface) and a HWIC-3G-HSPA 3G interface. These routers are to be sent to remote sites. We have connectivity to one of the sites but if remote site A gors down we lose connectivity to remote site B. The HWIC-1T is the primary WAN interface using frame relay joining the two remote sites We want the HWIC-3G-HSPA to be usable for direct connectivity from head office to remote site B, and also the HWIC-3G-HSPA is do be used for comms between the remote sites when the frame relay is down (happens quite a bit). I initialy tried to do dynamic routing using EIGRP however in my lab setup of laptop - 1941 - 1941 - laptop, I was unable to get end to end connectivity. I later settled on static routing and have got end to end connectivity but only over frame relay, not the HWIC-3G-HSPA. The sanitized running config for remote site A: version 15.1 service tcp-keepalives-in service tcp-keepalives-out service timestamps debug datetime msec service timestamps log datetime msec service password-encryption service udp-small-servers service tcp-small-servers ! hostname remoteA ! boot-start-marker boot-end-marker ! ! logging buffered 51200 warnings enable secret 5 censored ! no aaa new-model clock timezone wst 8 0 ! no ipv6 cef ip source-route ip cef ! ip domain name yourdomain.com multilink bundle-name authenticated ! chat-script gsm "" "ATDT*98*1#" TIMEOUT 30 "CONNECT" ! username admin privilege 15 secret 5 censored ! controller Cellular 0/1 ! interface Embedded-Service-Engine0/0 no ip address shutdown ! interface GigabitEthernet0/0 ip address 192.168.2.5 255.255.255.0 duplex auto speed auto ! interface GigabitEthernet0/1 no ip address shutdown duplex auto speed auto ! interface Serial0/0/0 ip address 10.1.1.2 255.255.255.252 encapsulation frame-relay cdp enable frame-relay interface-dlci 16 frame-relay lmi-type ansi ! interface Cellular0/1/0 ip address negotiated encapsulation ppp dialer in-band dialer idle-timeout 2147483 dialer string gsm dialer-group 1 async mode interactive ppp chap hostname censored ppp chap password 7 censored cdp enable ! interface Cellular0/1/1 no ip address encapsulation ppp ! interface Dialer0 no ip address ! ip forward-protocol nd ! no ip http server no ip http secure-server ! ip route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 Serial0/0/0 210 permanent ip route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 Cellular0/1/0 220 permanent ip route 172.31.2.0 255.255.255.0 Cellular0/1/0 permanent ip route 192.168.3.0 255.255.255.0 10.1.1.1 permanent ip route 192.168.3.0 255.255.255.0 Cellular0/1/0 210 permanent ! access-list 1 permit any dialer-list 1 protocol ip list 1 ! control-plane ! line con 0 logging synchronous login local line aux 0 line 2 no activation-character no exec transport preferred none transport input all transport output pad telnet rlogin lapb-ta mop udptn v120 ssh stopbits 1 line 0/1/0 exec-timeout 0 0 script dialer gsm login modem InOut no exec transport input all rxspeed 7200000 txspeed 5760000 line 0/1/1 no exec rxspeed 7200000 txspeed 5760000 line vty 0 4 access-class 23 in privilege level 15 password 7 censored login local transport input all line vty 5 15 access-class 23 in privilege level 15 password 7 censored login local transport input all line vty 16 1370 password 7 censored login transport input all ! scheduler allocate 20000 1000 end The sanitized running config for remote site B: version 15.1 service tcp-keepalives-in service tcp-keepalives-out service timestamps debug datetime msec service timestamps log datetime msec service password-encryption service udp-small-servers service tcp-small-servers ! hostname remoteB ! boot-start-marker boot-end-marker ! logging buffered 51200 warnings enable secret 5 censored ! no aaa new-model clock timezone wst 8 0 ! no ipv6 cef ip source-route ip cef ! no ip domain lookup ip domain name yourdomain.com multilink bundle-name authenticated ! chat-script gsm "" "ATDT*98*1#" TIMEOUT 30 "CONNECT" username admin privilege 15 secret 5 censored ! controller Cellular 0/1 ! interface Embedded-Service-Engine0/0 no ip address shutdown ! interface GigabitEthernet0/0 ip address 192.168.3.1 255.255.255.0 duplex auto speed auto ! interface GigabitEthernet0/1 no ip address shutdown duplex auto speed auto ! interface Serial0/0/0 ip address 10.1.1.1 255.255.255.252 encapsulation frame-relay clock rate 2000000 cdp enable frame-relay interface-dlci 16 frame-relay lmi-type ansi frame-relay intf-type dce ! interface Cellular0/1/0 ip address negotiated encapsulation ppp dialer in-band dialer idle-timeout 2147483 dialer string gsm dialer-group 1 async mode interactive ppp chap hostname censored ppp chap password 7 censored ppp ipcp dns request cdp enable ! interface Cellular0/1/1 no ip address encapsulation ppp ! interface Dialer0 no ip address ! ip forward-protocol nd ! no ip http server no ip http secure-server ! ip route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 Serial0/0/0 210 permanent ip route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 Cellular0/1/0 220 permanent ip route 172.31.2.0 255.255.255.0 Cellular0/1/0 permanent ip route 192.168.2.0 255.255.255.0 10.1.1.2 permanent ip route 192.168.2.0 255.255.255.0 Cellular0/1/0 210 permanent ! kron occurrence PING in 1 recurring policy-list ICMP ! access-list 1 permit any dialer-list 1 protocol ip list 1 ! control-plane ! line con 0 logging synchronous login local line aux 0 line 2 no activation-character no exec transport preferred none transport input all transport output pad telnet rlogin lapb-ta mop udptn v120 ssh stopbits 1 line 0/1/0 exec-timeout 0 0 script dialer gsm login modem InOut no exec transport input all rxspeed 7200000 txspeed 5760000 line 0/1/1 no exec rxspeed 7200000 txspeed 5760000 line vty 0 4 access-class 23 in privilege level 15 password 7 censored login transport input all line vty 5 15 access-class 23 in privilege level 15 password 7 censored login transport input all line vty 16 1370 password 7 censored login transport input all ! scheduler allocate 20000 1000 end The last problem I'm having is the 3G interfaces go down after only a few minutes of inactivity. I've tried using kron to ping the local HWIC-3G-HSPA interface (cellular 0/1/0) every minute but that hasn't been successful. Manually pinging the IP assigned (by the telco) to ce0/1/0 does bring the interface up. Any ideas? Thanks

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  • Getting a Target to run BEFORE anything else runs when building from Visual Studio

    - by damageboy
    Hi, I'm trying to get a one-time costly target to run only when building a certain top-level project (that has many dependencies). I have no problem on getting this working from plain msbuild / command line build. I do this with setting and InitialTargets on the project, or alternatively with < BeforeBuild /. The tricky part is with Visual Studio. When I build the same project from VS. VS runs the dependencies before even invoking my .csproj, so my target (which affects how the other projects are built) doesn't get to run until they have already been built. Is there someway to force VS to run a target before invoking the dependencies? I'm currently working around this, by running the same costly target from my most low-level project (the one that get's always built...) by using: Condition=" $(BuildingInsideVisualStudio) " Any ideas on how to get this done "properly"? Again, I'm looking for a solution that will work FROM VS.

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  • deep injection - spring

    - by Bob
    What is the best way (or options) for accessing spring components at layers deep within the application that aren't managed by spring? For example, I have a low level utility POJO class into which I need to autowire/inject a spring component. I'll call it LowLevelHelper. There are multiple classes that use LowLevelHelper - most are layers away from anything that is hooked up with spring. One option would be to make all the layers in to spring components, but that seems like I'm hacking my design to force spring to help me. I have some complex things going on that won't be nearly as clean if I have to @Autowire all the pieces and don't new anything. Another option might be to manually inject the component in the low level class, but I'm not really sure if this is possible or the right solution.

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  • Markers in Google Maps Application

    - by Samuh
    I am supposed to display a certain location using Google Maps application. I have lat/long values and tried Intent.ACTION_VIEW with "geo:lat,long?z=15" uri. The Google Maps application loads centered on the supplied lat-long value but obviously does not display any marker(overlays) pin-pointing the location. Is it possible to request the Google Maps App to display markers? Also, the zoom level paramater doesnt seem to work. Maps load at the default zoom level of 10. I can easily achieve this using MapActivity but Google Map App is what is desired. Thanks

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  • Using GLOrtho to view Side, Front, Top perspectives of a 3D scene

    - by talldan
    Dear all, I'm building a game level editing app as part of a university project. In my application I have multiple viewports, a Perspective viewport and three orthographic views all setup to view the same scene. I've successfuly setup the orthographic views and can translate and scale them to mimic scrolling and zooming. Unfortunately, I'm having one problem - my scene still contains 3 dimensions, so objects viewed in orthographic mode of certain depths are clipped when they fall outside of my clipping volume. Most 3D authoring tools or level editors allow you to view all objects in orthographic mode regardless of depth. I guess what I need to do is scale my scene in the appropriate dimension so that all values lie between 1 and -1, is there a straightforward way of going about this? Or is there a different better approach. Thanks very much for your help, Dan

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  • How do I determine the revision number of an Android build?

    - by hermo
    I know how to get the API level, android.os.Build.VERSION.SDK_INT, but there are also several revisions of each level release, e.g. for 2.1 there's rev 1 and 2. How do I determine the revision of a build? The reason i'd like to know this is that I have a workaround for a bug in Android 2.1 (and 2.2), and this workaround will break the moment the corresponding bug is fixed. So right now i'm in the odd position of hoping that the bug won't be fixed (at least not until I can find an answer to above question).

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  • Facebook API: How to let the php knows whether the user is a fan of the application or not?

    - by Unreality
    Facebook API: How to let the php knows whether the user is a fan of the application or not? Plan 1: failed is displayed at the html level only.. .it won't let the php level knows whether the user is a fan or not Plan 2: failed has got the same problem too Plan 3: failed fql permission table simply lacked the field of is_fan http://wiki.developers.facebook.com/index.php/Permissions_%28FQL%29 Plan 4: server lag calling restful API http://wiki.developers.facebook.com/index.php/Pages.isFan will bring a lot of lag to server... and I wonder if it can works on application page too. any suggestion to solve this problem?

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  • JQuery UI + tabs : How to kow to get the selected tab with imbricated tabs

    - by chris
    Hi, I'm new to Jquery. I'm using JQuery UI and i have imbricated Tabs : Tabs in tabs. ____ tab 1 | tab 2 | tab 3 | tab 4| tab 5 ______ tab 1-1 | tab 1-2 | tab 1-3 | tab 1-4| tab 1-5 I'm using $('#div').bind('tabsselect', function(event, ui) { selectedTab = ui.index; alert('selectedTab : ' + selectedTab); }); to kown the selected index. If i click on "tab "1 the selected index returned is correct. But when click on tabs in the second level ("tab 1-xx") the event is fired too. I want to resctriced the bind('tabsselect', function(event, ui) on the first level of tab (tab x). How can i do that ? Thanks

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  • Getting "on the wire" Size of Messages in WCF

    - by Mystagogue
    While I'm making SOAP or REST invocations to WCF, I'd like to have the channel stack on either end (client and server) record the on-the-wire size of the data received. So I'm guessing I need to add a custom behavior to the channel stack on either side. That is, on the server side I'd record the IP-header advertised size that was received. On the client side I'd record the IP-header advertised size that was returned from the server. But this presupposes that this information is visible to a custom WCF behavior at the channel stack level. Perhaps it is only visible at the level of ASP.NET (at a layer beneath WCF)? In short, does anyone have any further insight on if and how this information is accessible? I must qualify that this "size" data will be collected in a production environment, as part of regular business logic calls. This question is related to my earlier bandwidth question.

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  • feature extraction from acoustic signals

    - by Dolphin
    Hi everyone, It's been a while. I found APIs in Java for extracting features from acoustic audio files and symbolic files separately. But now I have a problem in mapping from low level wav audio features to high level midi features. i.e. I need to write the extracted wav audio features on to midi format. But I cannot think of anything even close to it. Can someone pls provide me some insight as in how I can approach this. Greatly appreciate your responses. Advance thanks

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  • How do we, as a community, help encourage programming in public schools? (Or state Schools for the U

    - by NoMoreZealots
    PRIMARY MOTIVATION My office gets involved with the "First Robotics" competitions and one thing that lingers year to year is the students typically have no preparation for doing even simple programming as part of the public schools system. While the science classes provide some basic grasp of mechanical and electrical concepts, by in large computer programming gets no coverage from the curriculum. (This my be different in other areas of the country/world.) What makes it worse is there is only a short period of time you have to prepare the student's and help them design the robot. Talking to some professors from local colleges, it's a problem because you can't assume even the most basic understanding for freshman CS majors. Languages like Python, Lua and BASIC are simple enough for at least high school level students, if not younger. SCOPE So how do you get public schools to support a programming, at least to the level of "Try it in BASIC" examples that used to be at the end of a chapter in my Algebra book? At least enough to prepare them for event's such as the FIRST Robotic competitions. Which the primary objectives are to teach problem solving and team work, and to possible foster an interest in Math, Science and Engineering in general. (Not force feed to them, as some people her seem to be implying.) Edit: Why teach kids: (Since 2000 CS enrollment in US colleges has decreased by 70% while college enrollment has increased, this is a PROBLEM.) Saying there is no value in teaching someone programming in Jr./High school because they might think "they know programming." Is like saying there's no value in teaching High school science and physics, because they might decide they "know physics." Leading to abuse like: "I passed a high school physics class, I'm going to develop a Unified Quantum Gravitational Theory." Better Prepared students are better students. Instead it would allows college programs to raise the bar on the entry level courses, allowing students to be weeded out based on their understanding of more advanced material. Plus people who did poorly in that in topic in High school aren't as likely to say "I think there's money in computer's so I'll computer science." Plus if people take it in high school and decide THEN that it's not for them, it's better than them wasting their money to PAY a college to figure that out. The result is that people who take the degree are more likely to succeed and be there for the RIGHT reasons. (i.e. It's what they REALLY want to do. And that's REALLY the key to being good at anything.) Programming is like anything else, the more practice and genuine interest you have the better you get. If you start them later, they get less practice. The earlier give them the opportunity to start, the more practice they will get. All other things equal, the more practice the better the programmer.

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