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• E-Business Suite, ADF, Mobile and Eclipse: Oracle OpenWorld is Here!

  - by Juan Camilo Ruiz

  Oracle OpenWorld 2012 is around the corner! Lots of exciting news and content awaits for all attendees next week - the theme of my participation: ADF and E-Business Suite integration, together with ADF development in Oracle Enterprise Eclipse Package and JDeveloper.If you are coming to San Francisco and are a reader of this blog, you might be wondering what I'll be doing next week and also what should you attend? So, the following is the list of activities where I'll be participating or that I recommend you should not miss:First and foremost: On Thursday Oct. 4: Using Oracle ADF with Oracle E-Business Suite: The Full Integration View.  11.15 a.m - Moscone West 3003:  This is an emerging hot topic among both ADF and Oracle E-Business Suite Customers. In this session I'll be doing a presentation with Sara Woodhull from the Applications Technology Group (ATG) in Oracle E-Business Suite and Siva Puthurkattil from Lake County, Illinois. Sunday, Sept. 30:  I'll be hanging out at the ADF EMG User Day, learning directly from our users and Gurus. Monday, Oct. 1: Don't miss Chris Tonas's keynote for developers - at 10:45 am. Salon 8 at the Marriot - The Future of Development for Oracle Fusion—From Desktop to Mobile to Cloud. Then: At 12.15 p.m. Moscone West 3014 - Extend Oracle Fusion Apps to Tablets/Smartphones with Oracle Mobile Technology Followed by: At 1.45 p.m. Moscone West 3002/3004 -  Extend Oracle Applications to Mobile Devices with Oracle’s Mobile Technologies I'll be participating in a couple of Hands-On Labs: Build Mobile Applications for Oracle E-Business Suite 1:45 PM- Marriott Marquis - Salon 10A And: Introduction to ADF 3.15 p.m - Marrriott Marquis - Salon 3/4. Tuesday, Oct. 2: I'll be at the Oracle Enterprise Pack for Eclipse demo booth showing some nice demos on ADF development with Eclipse. Wednesday, Oct. 3: Mobile Apps for Oracle E-Business Suite with Oracle ADF Mobile and Oracle SOA Suite 10:15 AM - Moscone West - 3001. Let's have a beer at the Oracle ADF Developer Meetup. OTN Louge 4:30 p.,m - 5.30 p.m! Thursday, Oct. 4: After my session, come to experience ADF development in Eclipse at the Oracle ADF for Java EE Developers with Oracle Enterprise Pack for Eclipse HandsOn Lab 12.45 p,m - Marriot room 3/4. All the Oracle OpenWorld related sessions can be found here: ADF - http://goo.gl/eJFNi Mobile: http://goo.gl/mGoRM E-Business Suite: http://goo.gl/5NqMd

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• The New OEPE 12.1.1.2 is Out - ADF Development and More

  - by Juan Camilo Ruiz

  Yes you are reading it right. Having announced just last week the general availability of our OEPE release 12.1.1.1.1 which includes support for developing applications to the Oracle Cloud. Today we are happy to announce the release of OEPE 12c (12.1.1.2) which includes various improvements for Webservices policies and security, and new features for implementing ADF applications in Eclipse Juno (3.8.1 and 4.2.1) as well as, bug fixes for other areas of the product - all of the above on top of Oracle Cloud support from the previous release. Many of the new features on this release have been added based on the feedback that we got from the ADF community, so, many thanks to you all and please, keep them coming! The main new features for this release are: ADF Bindings support on Taskflow activities on the diagram. Support for multi-node tree component bidings. Automatic ID generation for ADF Faces components. Support drag-n-drop of components and bindings into the page outline in addition to the regular jsp editor. Improved Webservices policies and security.  You can download the new versión from here. Remenber that you can send us your feedback or post your questions on our forum on OTN The OEPE Team. 

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• Announcement: New Tutorial - Using ADF Faces and ADF Controller with OEPE

  - by Juan Camilo Ruiz

  We are happy to announce the publication of our newest tutorial, that explores some of the latest features added in our OEPE 12c release for ADF Development. The tutorial walks you through the creation of an ADF application that uses the ADF Faces Rich Client components, in combination with the ADF Controler, ADF Model and JPA. By developing this tutorial you will work and understand various features added into OEPE 12c that are specific to ADF development such as: ADF taskflow editor Visual pageDefinition editor ADF integration with AppXRay Navigation across artifacts such as pages, pageDefinition, managed beans, etc. Property inspector for ADF Faces components. Stay tunned for more and exciting tutorials that explore this and much more OEPE features. And of course your feedback is always welcome!

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• Scrum - real life example?

  - by Camilo

  I'm starting with scrum and saw many partial examples on books and tutorials, but when try to use scrum in the real life, it's not easy to write the user stories and create the product backlog. I want to see a real project with user stories, product backlog and sprint backlogs to see if I'm doing it in the correct way. Is there any open source project with a public product backlog ? Is there any shared complete user stories and product backlog from a real project?

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• Don't Miss All the OEPE Action at OOW and JavaOne

  - by Juan Camilo Ruiz

  This year at Oracle Open World the OEPE team will be participating in various activities along the week. Here is the summary of all them: mark your calendars and secure your spot, we'll be showing all the new and exciting that we have been working on. Sessions: Mon 1 Oct, 2012 Time Title Location 10:45 AM - 11:45 AM General Session: The Future of Development for Oracle Fusion—From Desktop to Mobile to Cloud Marriott Marquis - Salon 8 4:45 PM - 5:45 PM General Session: Building Mobile Applications with Oracle Cloud Moscone West - 2002/2004 3:15 PM - 4:15 PM End-to-End Oracle ADF Development in Eclipse Marriott Marquis - Golden Gate C3 Wed 3 Oct, 2012 Time Title Location 3:30 PM - 4:30 PM Oracle Developer Cloud Services Marriott Marquis - Salon 7 Hands-On Lab: Thur 4 Oct, 2012 Time Title Location 12:45 PM - 1:45 PM Oracle ADF for Java EE Developers with Oracle Enterprise Pack for Eclipse Marriott Marquis - Salon 3/4 Also you can see live demos throughout the week at our demo booths over in JavaOne and Moscone Center Demos Demo Location Cloud Developer Moscone North, Upper Lobby - N-002 Oracle Eclipse Projects Hilton San Francisco, Grand Ballroom - HHJ-008 Oracle Enterprise Pack for Eclipse Moscone South, Right - S-208 Also the OEPE team will be at the first ADF Developer Meetup at OOW, on Wednesday from 4.30 p.m - 5.30 p.m  at the OTN Lounge. Let's have a beer and let us know what you think about the product. See you in San Francisco! 

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• Couldn't Make It to Oracle OpenWorld? Fear Not! Upcoming: Using the Oracle E-Business Suite SDK for Java in ADF Applications Webcast

  - by Juan Camilo Ruiz

  For those of you who didn't make it at Oracle OpenWorld, we have good news. The ADF and E-Business Suite teams are well aware that various ADF and Oracle E-Business Suite customers are looking for guidance on how to work with the Oracle E-Business Suite SDK for Java in ADF applications: its capabilities, limitations, etc. As some of you might know, Sara Woodhull from the Applications Technology Group (ATG) in Oracle E-Business Suite and I delivered a session on the topic at Oracle OpenWorld last week. The good news is that we are already planning to deliver this session again as a webcast, tentatively scheduled for Nov. 2, 2012.  Stay tuned to this and the Oracle E-Business Suite Technology Stack blog for upcoming information about the webcast.

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• Silverlight Cream for March 13, 2010 -- #813

  - by Dave Campbell

  In this Issue: András Velvárt, Bobby Diaz, John Papa/Laurent Bugnion, Jesse Liberty, Christopher Bennage, Tim Greenfield, and Cameron Albert. Shoutouts: Svetla Stoycheva of SilverlightShow has an Interview with SilverlightShow Eco Contest Grand Prize Winner Daniel James Svetla Stoycheva of SilverlightShow also has an Interview with SilverlightShow Eco Contest Community Vote Winner Cigdem Patlak File this under #DoesHeEverSleep, Nokola has an EasyPainter Source Pack 1 Refresh And another filing in the same category by Nokola: EasyPainter Source Pack 2: Flickr, ComboCheckBox and more! In my last pre-#MIX10 'Cream post: From SilverlightCream.com: A Designer-friendly Approach to MVVM András Velvárt has an MVVM tutorial up on SilverlightShow from the Designer perspective of wiring up the View and ViewModel... good stuff my friend! Generate Strongly Typed Observable Events for the Reactive Extensions for .NET (Rx) In an effort to get more familiar with Rx, Bobby Diaz built a WhiteBoard app... there's a demo page plus the source... thanks Bobby! Silverlight TV 13: MVVM Light Toolkit My friend Laurent Bugnion is probably in the air flying to MIX10 right now, but at the MVP Summit last month, he recorded with John Papa and they produced an episode of Silverlight TV for Laurent's MVVM Light ... good stuff guys... see you tomorrow :) WCF Ria Services For Real Jesse Liberty has a great tutorial up on what it takes to get real data into your app ... you know... the stuff you have to get after reading a blog post that uses local stuff :) 1 Simple Step for Commanding in Silverlight Christopher Bennage is discussing Commanding and of course is using Caliburn for the example :) Use Silverlight Reactive Extensions (Rx) to build responsive UIs Tim Greenfield is beginning a two-parter on using Rx. In this first he has a comparison of with and without Rx... cool idea. General Purpose Sprite Class On the heels of Bill Reiss' Sprite posts, Cameron Albert has a General Purpose Sprite class post up using Bill's SilverSprite. Stay in the 'Light! Twitter SilverlightNews | Twitter WynApse | WynApse.com | Tagged Posts | SilverlightCream Join me @ SilverlightCream | Phoenix Silverlight User Group Technorati Tags: Silverlight    Silverlight 3    Silverlight 4    MIX10

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• Launch an arbitrary application with a specific icon

  - by Camilo Martin

  I'm thinking about customizing my Windows 7's application icons, so that they all follow a specific theme (Token-like icons). This would involve using Resource Hacker (or similar) to patch each .exe. Not only this would be tiresome, but also it would require doing it again at each update of each application (nevermind that some could break just because it was tampered with). Instead, is there any way to launch an application with a specific icon? Ideally it would be something from the command-line (so I can make a shortcut), like this: launchwithicon.exe --app C:\myapp.exe --icon C:\myicon.ico Note that while it is possible to do something similar by setting the taskbar to "always combine, hide labels", I do not like this approach and instead am looking for something that works without combining the taskbar icons.

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• Is it possible to use XP visual styles (*.msstyles) or Windows Blinds in a thinapp portable applicat

  - by Camilo Martin

  It's been a while since I made a portable (Office 2007) Thinapp application, and since then I've uninstalled VMWare from my machine to free up space, so I'd like to know if someone already knows the answer to this before I set up everything again to try it. I'm thinking of installing a visual style (*.msstyles, for XP) along with the application to thinapp before post-setup capture. Failing that, maybe I'll try with visual mods such as Windows Blinds. The purpose is to be able to run a portable application with a specific visual style. So my question is: Is it possible? (I believe it somehow is, since VirtualBox does something similar to XP Mode) If it is, will it work on a computer with the "classic" Windows style? If it's not, will it work with another virtualization software? (Xenocode?) If it's not possible with *.msstyles, will it work with visual mods such as Windows Blinds? Thanks for any input! (P.S.: Awfully tagged due to lack of relevant tags or 100+ rep to create a tag :P)

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• PNG alpha rendered as black in Blender

  - by Camilo Martin

  I'm a Blender novice, so this is probably easy to fix. When I use a transparent PNG as a texture in Blender, the parts that should be transparent are rendered as black. This is especially confusing since in the material preview it looks as if the material would indeed be transparent. Here's a screenshot: This is the test texture, and in the right on top of a checkerboard:                        Here is the .blend file in case you want to check it:                                                      

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• How to monitor a folder for changes, and execute a command if it does, on Windows?

  - by Camilo Martin

  There are similar questions for Linux and Mac, but I'm after a Windows solution here. The problem is as follows: I want to write several (js) script files in a folder, and have a program monitor that folder for file changes and new files being added, and run a command whenever that happens (to compile them all into one single file). The solution has to: Monitor both file changes and new files being added, in a folder. Run a command only if there is any change. It would be best if it either is a built-in solution (like a JScript or VBscript snippet), or something that does not require installation.

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• REMINDER: ATG Live Webcast Nov. 15: Best Practices for Using EBS SDK for Java with Oracle ADF

  - by Bill Sawyer

  Thursday, November 15th is your chance to join Sara Woodhull and Juan Camilo Ruiz as they discuss  Best Practices for Using EBS SDK for Java with Oracle ADF. You can find the complete event details at ATG Live Webcast: Best Practices for Using EBS SDK for Java with Oracle ADF Date:               Thursday, November 15, 2012Time:              8:00 AM - 9:00 AM Pacific Standard TimePresenters:   Sara Woodhull, Principal Product Manager, E-Business Suite ATG                         Juan Camilo Ruiz, Principal Product Manager, ADF Webcast Registration Link (Preregistration is optional but encouraged) To hear the audio feed:    Domestic Participant Dial-In Number:           877-697-8128    International Participant Dial-In Number:      706-634-9568    Additional International Dial-In Numbers Link:    Dial-In Passcode:                                              103192To see the presentation:    The Direct Access Web Conference details are:    Website URL: https://ouweb.webex.com    Meeting Number:  591862924 If you miss the webcast, or you have missed any webcast, don't worry -- we'll post links to the recording as soon as it's available from Oracle University.  You can monitor this blog for pointers to the replay. And, you can find our archive of our past webcasts and training here. If you have any questions or comments, feel free to email Bill Sawyer (Senior Manager, Applications Technology Curriculum) at BilldotSawyer-AT-Oracle-DOT-com.

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• Axis over SSL and authentication with a PKCS#12 keystore

  - by Camilo Díaz

  I have PKCS#12 keystore that I've sucessfully imported in my browser for accessing a server that needs 2-way SSL authentication. Works perfectly reaching any https URL there. However, I'm unable to access an URL in the same server, and from the same host when using Axis 1.4. The given Axis faultString is: javax.net.ssl.SSLHandshakeException: sun.security.validator.ValidatorException: PKIX path building failed: sun.security.provider.certpath.SunCertPathBuilderException: unable to find valid certification path to requested target My javax.net.ssl.{keyStore,keyStorePassword,keyStoreType} properties seem to be set up fine. How can I solve this?

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• UITabBar in iPad - Won't go into landscape mode with more than 2 items

  - by Sam Diaz

  I created a new project and selected the Tab Bar template for iPad. I opened it up in Interface Builder and added 4 more items, bringing the total items to 6. I did a build and run and it opened up fine in the iPad simulator, but it wouldn't go into landscape! I then backtracked in interface builder and found that it would go landscape if there were only 2 items in the tab bar, but not if there were any more. The simulator rotates but all the content (currently just the placeholders put in place by Apple) stays as if it was portrait. Any ideas why?

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• Django Formset validation with an optional ForeignKey field

  - by Camilo Díaz

  Having a ModelFormSet built with modelformset_factory and using a model with an optional ForeignKey, how can I make empty (null) associations to validate on that form? Here is a sample code: ### model class Prueba(models.Model): cliente = models.ForeignKey(Cliente, null = True) valor = models.CharField(max_length = 20) ### view def test(request): PruebaFormSet = modelformset_factory(model = Prueba, extra = 1) if request.method == 'GET': formset = PruebaFormSet() return render_to_response('tpls/test.html', {'formset' : formset}, context_instance = RequestContext(request)) else: formset = PruebaFormSet(request.POST) # dumb tests, just to know if validating if formset.is_valid(): return HttpResponse('0') else: return HttpResponse('1') In my template, i'm just calling the {{ form.cliente }} method which renders the combo field, however, I want to be able to choose an empty (labeled "------") value, as the FK is optional... but when the form gets submitted it doesn't validate. Is this normal behaviour? How can i make this field to skip required validation?

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• Passing const CName as this argument discards qualifiers

  - by Geno Diaz

  I'm having trouble with passing a constant class through a function. // test the constructors auto CName nameOne("Robert", "Bresson"); const CName nameTwo = nameOne; auto CName nameThree; // display the contents of each newly-constructed object... // should see "Robert Bresson" cout << "nameOne = "; nameOne.WriteFullName(); cout << endl; // should see "Robert Bresson" again cout << "nameTwo = "; nameTwo.WriteFullName(); cout << endl; As soon as the compiler hits nameTwo.WriteFullName() I get the error of abandoning qualifiers. I know that the class is a constant however I can't figure out how to work around it. The function is in a header file written as so: void const WriteFullName(ostream& outstream = cout) { outstream << m_first << ' ' << m_last; } I receive this error when const is put in back of the function header main.cpp:(.text+0x51): undefined reference to CName::CName()' main.cpp:(.text+0x7c): undefined reference toCName::WriteFullName(std::basic_ostream &) const' main.cpp:(.text+0xbb): undefined reference to CName::WriteFullName(std::basic_ostream<char, std::char_traits<char> >&) const' main.cpp:(.text+0xf7): undefined reference toCName::WriteFullName(std::basic_ostream &) const' main.cpp:(.text+0x133): undefined reference to operator>>(std::basic_istream<char, std::char_traits<char> >&, CName&)' main.cpp:(.text+0x157): undefined reference tooperator<<(std::basic_ostream &, CName const&)' main.cpp:(.text+0x1f4): undefined reference to operator<<(std::basic_ostream<char, std::char_traits<char> >&, CName const&)' main.cpp:(.text+0x22b): undefined reference tooperator<<(std::basic_ostream &, CName const&)' main.cpp:(.text+0x25f): undefined reference to operator<<(std::basic_ostream<char, std::char_traits<char> >&, CName const&)' main.cpp:(.text+0x320): undefined reference tooperator<<(std::basic_ostream &, CName const&)' main.cpp:(.text+0x347): undefined reference to `operator(std::basic_istream &, CName&)'

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• Does it still make sense to learn low level WinAPI programming?

  - by Camilo Díaz

  Does it make sense, having all of the C#-managed-bliss, to go back to Petzold's Programming Windows and try to produce code w/ pure WinAPI? What can be learn from it? Isn't it just too outdated to be useful?

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• Delete element from array

  - by Julio Diaz

  Is there a way I can get rid of some elements in an array. for instance, if i have this array int testArray[] = {0,2,0,3,0,4,5,6} Is there a "fast" way to get rid of the elements that equal 0 int resultArray[] = {2,3,4,5,6} I tried this function but I got lost using Lists public int[] getRidOfZero(int []s){ List<> result=new ArrayList<>(); for(int i=0; i<s.length; i++){ if(s[i]<0){ int temp = s[i]; result.add(temp); } } return result.toArray(new int[]); }

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• Locking a file to verify a single execution of a service. How reliable?

  - by Camilo Díaz

  Hello, I am deploying a little service to an UNIX(AIX) system. I want to check if there is no active instance of that service running when starting it. How reliable is to implement that check like this? Try to acquire a lock on a file (w/ FileChannel) If succeeds, keep lock and continue execution If fails, exit and refuse to run the main body I am aware of software like the Tanuki wrapper, however, I'm longing for a simpler(maybe not portable) solution. Regarding PIDFILE(s): I want to avoid using them if possible, as I don't have administrative rights on the machine, neither knowledge in AIX's shell programming.

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• Silverlight Cream for March 10, 2010 - 2 -- #811

  - by Dave Campbell

  In this Issue: AfricanGeek, Phil Middlemiss, Damon Payne, David Anson, Jesse Liberty, Jeremy Likness, Jobi Joy(-2-), Fredrik Normén, Bobby Diaz, and Mike Taulty(-2-). Shoutouts: Shawn Wildermuth blogged that they posted My "What's New in Silverlight 3" Video from 0reDev Last Fall Shawn Wildermuth also has a post up for his loyal followers: Where to See Me At MIX10 Jonas Follesø has presentation materials up as well: MVVM presentation from NDC2009 on Vimeo Adam Kinney updated his Favorite Tool and Library Downloads for Silverlight From SilverlightCream.com: Styling Silverlight ListBox with Blend 3 In his latest Video Tutorial, AfricanGeek is animating the ListBox control by way of Expression Blend 3. Animating the Silverlight Opacity Mask Phil Middlemiss has written a Behavior that lets you turn a FrameworkElement into an opacity mask for it's parent container... check out his tutorial and grab the code. AddRange for ObservableCollection in Silverlight 3 Damon Payne has a post up discussing the problem with large amounts of data in an ObservableCollection, and how using AddRange is a performance booster. Easily rotate the axis labels of a Silverlight/WPF Toolkit chart David Anson blogged a solution to rotating the axis labels of a Silverlight and WPF chart. Persisting the Configuration (Updated) Jesse Liberty has a good discussion on the continuation of his HyperVideo Platform talking about what all he is needing from the database in the form of configuration information... including the relationships. Animations and View Models: IAnimationDelegate Check out Jeremy Likness' IAnimationDelegate that lets your ViewModel fire and respond to animations without having to know all about them. Button Style - Silverlight Jobi Joy converted a WPF control template into Silverlight... and you'll want to download the XAML he's got for this :) A Simple Accordion banner using ListBox Jobi Joy also has an Image Accordian created in Expression Blend... and it's a 'drop this XAML in your User Control' kinda thing... again, go grab the XAML :) WCF RIA Services Silverlight Business Application – Using ASP.NET SiteMap for Navigation Fredrik Normén has a code-laden post up on RIA Services and the ASP.NET SiteMap. He is using the Silverlight Business app template that comes with WCF RIA Services. A Simple, Selectable Silverlight TextBlock (sort of)... Bobby Diaz shares with us his solution for a Text control that can be copied from in the same manner 'normal' web controls can be. He also includes a link to another post on the same topic. Silverlight 4 Beta Networking. Part 11 - WCF and TCP Mike Taulty has another pair of video tutorials up in his Networking series. This one is on WCF over TCP Silverlight 4 Beta Networking. Part 12 - WCF and Polling HTTP Mike Taulty's 12th networking video tutorial is on WCF with HTTP polling duplex. Stay in the 'Light! Twitter SilverlightNews | Twitter WynApse | WynApse.com | Tagged Posts | SilverlightCream Join me @ SilverlightCream | Phoenix Silverlight User Group Technorati Tags: Silverlight    Silverlight 3    Silverlight 4    MIX10

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• Changing the size of UISearchBar

  - by camilo

  Hi. Not being able to find the answer, and also not being able to do what I want with CGSize searchBarSize = self.searchDisplayController.searchBar.frame.size; searchBarSize.width = ; I ask: is there a way to change the width of a UISearchBar? Tanks a lot.

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• Zoom in UIImageView without scrollView nor WebView

  - by camilo

  Hi, Is there any code example teaching how to zoom in and out in a UIImageView by user taps? I know it is possible to do it with UIScrollView and with UIWebView, but these solutions both need a lot of changes in the code, and I'm working on schedule (bad teachers). I wanted basically an example on how to manipulate directly the UIImageView. Thanks a lot!

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• Allowing user to select a UIPickerView row by tapping.

  - by camilo

  Hi. I'm trying to use a UIPicker View with a behavior somehow different of what's usually seen in iPhone code examples. What I want to do is to allow users to scroll through the picker contents, but not to select a picker's row automatically (using the "didSelectRow" method from picker's delegate). Instead, I want to allow the user to touch the center row of the picker, which gets highlighted, and becomes the selection. Is there any way to achieve this? Thanks in advance.

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• bundle .NET dlls to run application in .NET-less machine?

  - by Camilo Martin

  AFAIK, ngen turns MSIL into native code (also reffered to as pre-JIT), however I never payed too much attention at it's startup performance impact. Ngen'd applications still require the .NET base class libraries (the runtime). Since the base class libraries have everything our .NET assemblies need (correct?) would it be possible to ship the framework's DLLs with my ngen'd application so that it does not require the runtime to be installed? (e.g., the scenario for most Windows XP machines) Oh, and please don't bother mentioning Remotesoft's Salamander Linker or Xenocode's Postbuild. They are not for my (and many's) current budget (and they seem to simply bundle the framework in a virtualized enviroinment, which means big download sizes and slow startup times I believe) EDIT: I know now, ngen doesn't do what I thought it did. But is it possible to bundle the .NET files with an application, without using a VM?

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• use ngen and bundle .NET dlls to run application in .NET-less machine?

  - by Camilo Martin

  AFAIK, ngen turns MSIL into native code (also reffered to as pre-JIT), however I never payed too much attention at it's startup performance impact. Ngen'd applications still require the .NET base class libraries (the runtime). Since the base class libraries have everything our .NET assemblies need (correct?) would it be possible to ship the framework's DLLs with my ngen'd application so that it does not require the runtime to be installed? (e.g., the scenario for most Windows XP machines) Oh, and please don't bother mentioning Remotesoft's Salamander Linker or Xenocode's Postbuild. They are not for my (and many's) current budget (and they seem to simply bundle the framework in a virtualized enviroinment, which means big download sizes and slow startup times I believe)

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