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• What does transactions per seconds for a load balancer mean

  - by Anurag

  I was looking at the product matrix of webmux 592G(load balancer). It says maximum connections per sec = 2.8M Maximum number of transactions = 100,000 What does the above numbers mean. Does above means that load balancer can have 2.8M connections open but only 100K of them will be active per seconds. Also incase any one has used webmux 592G do you guys know in practice how many connections it can have open and what qps it can serve

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• How to change suexec root directory from "/var/www" to "/home"?

  - by Oudin

  Hi I've installed suexec using on ubuntu 12.04: apt-get install apache2 apache2-suexec libapache2-mod-fcgid php5-cgi However when I run the following command: sudo /usr/lib/apache2/suexec -V I get the following info: -D AP_DOC_ROOT="/var/www" -D AP_GID_MIN=100 -D AP_HTTPD_USER="www-data" -D AP_LOG_EXEC="/var/log/apache2/suexec.log" -D AP_SAFE_PATH="/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin" -D AP_UID_MIN=100 -D AP_USERDIR_SUFFIX="public_html" I'm utilizing "/home/user/public_html" to serve users content on the web not "/var/www" How can I change the root directory to "/home"?

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• How do I do a case-insensitive mod_rewrite redirect to the same URL (mod case)?

  - by joeforker

  I'm using a case-sensitive web application to serve a few URLs that will be printed, so we expect UsErs to type them with inexact case. How do I tell mod_rewrite to redirect to the correct case URL as in [NC] without also redirecting on the case-exact URL and creating a loop?

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• ab benchmarking testing

  - by Tennyson

  I have a question about ab benchmarking test, if i need to measure the time the server takes to serve IO.php with persistent connection. does the persistent connection mean i need to input "./ab -k ........." or "./ab -n 1000 -c 100 ........." Thanks a lot

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• Is it possible to ensure that multiple applications run in the same terminal server session using RemoteApp?

  - by mbrownnyc

  We are interested in implementing RemoteApp on Windows 2008 R2 to serve out a few programs. Since the developers use shared memory to pass messages between processes, it is necessary that we provide them with a solution that will allow this. They have researched and discovered that if the applications exist in the same terminal server session that they will be able to access shared memory. Is there a way to absolutely ensure that multiple RemoteApps are running within the same session (with the same user) so that they can access the same shared memory?

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• Webserver concurrent connections

  - by sri

  Where can I get statistics of concurrent connections that can be handled by Apache and IIS? Which one will serve more requests in peak times? Thank you, Sri

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• ZFS - how to partition SSD for ZIL or L2ARC use?

  - by ewwhite

  I'm working with a Sun x4540 unit with two pools and newly-installed ZIL (OCZ Vertex 2 Pro) and L2ARC (Intel X25-M) devices. Since I need to keep these two pools in the near-term, I'd like to know how to partition these devices to serve both pools of data. I've tried format, parted and fdisk and can't quite seem to get the right combination to generate recognizable partitions for zpool add. The OS in this case is NexentaStor, but I will also need this for general OpenSolaris solutions.

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• No module named sqlalchemy when installing ckanext-viewhelpers

  - by kean23

  I'm using CKAN as my open data portal and am trying to install the ckanext-viewhelpers Extension by following the instructions at https://github.com/ckan/ckanext-viewhelpers. /usr/lib/ckan/default/src/ckanext-viewhelpers-master$ sudo python setup.py installChecking .pth file support in /usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/ /usr/bin/python -E -c pass TEST PASSED: /usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/ appears to support .pth files running bdist_egg running egg_info writing ckanext_viewhelpers.egg-info/PKG-INFO writing namespace_packages to ckanext_viewhelpers.egg-info/namespace_packages.txt writing top-level names to ckanext_viewhelpers.egg-info/top_level.txt writing dependency_links to ckanext_viewhelpers.egg-info/dependency_links.txt writing entry points to ckanext_viewhelpers.egg-info/entry_points.txt reading manifest file 'ckanext_viewhelpers.egg-info/SOURCES.txt' reading manifest template 'MANIFEST.in' writing manifest file 'ckanext_viewhelpers.egg-info/SOURCES.txt' installing library code to build/bdist.linux-x86_64/egg running install_lib running build_py creating build/bdist.linux-x86_64/egg creating build/bdist.linux-x86_64/egg/ckanext copying build/lib.linux-x86_64-2.7/ckanext/__init__.py -> build/bdist.linux-x86_64/egg/ckanext creating build/bdist.linux-x86_64/egg/ckanext/viewhelpers copying build/lib.linux-x86_64-2.7/ckanext/viewhelpers/plugin.py -> build/bdist.linux-x86_64/egg/ckanext/viewhelpers copying build/lib.linux-x86_64-2.7/ckanext/viewhelpers/__init__.py -> build/bdist.linux-x86_64/egg/ckanext/viewhelpers creating build/bdist.linux-x86_64/egg/ckanext/viewhelpers/tests copying build/lib.linux-x86_64-2.7/ckanext/viewhelpers/tests/__init__.py -> build/bdist.linux-x86_64/egg/ckanext/viewhelpers/tests copying build/lib.linux-x86_64-2.7/ckanext/viewhelpers/tests/test_view.py -> build/bdist.linux-x86_64/egg/ckanext/viewhelpers/tests creating build/bdist.linux-x86_64/egg/ckanext/viewhelpers/public creating build/bdist.linux-x86_64/egg/ckanext/viewhelpers/public/vendor copying build/lib.linux-x86_64-2.7/ckanext/viewhelpers/public/vendor/queryStringToJSON.js -> build/bdist.linux-x86_64/egg/ckanext/viewhelpers/public/vendor copying build/lib.linux-x86_64-2.7/ckanext/viewhelpers/public/resource.config -> build/bdist.linux-x86_64/egg/ckanext/viewhelpers/public copying build/lib.linux-x86_64-2.7/ckanext/viewhelpers/public/filters_form.css -> build/bdist.linux-x86_64/egg/ckanext/viewhelpers/public copying build/lib.linux-x86_64-2.7/ckanext/viewhelpers/public/filters.js -> build/bdist.linux-x86_64/egg/ckanext/viewhelpers/public copying build/lib.linux-x86_64-2.7/ckanext/viewhelpers/public/filters_form.js -> build/bdist.linux-x86_64/egg/ckanext/viewhelpers/public byte-compiling build/bdist.linux-x86_64/egg/ckanext/__init__.py to __init__.pyc byte-compiling build/bdist.linux-x86_64/egg/ckanext/viewhelpers/plugin.py to plugin.pyc byte-compiling build/bdist.linux-x86_64/egg/ckanext/viewhelpers/__init__.py to __init__.pyc byte-compiling build/bdist.linux-x86_64/egg/ckanext/viewhelpers/tests/__init__.py to __init__.pyc byte-compiling build/bdist.linux-x86_64/egg/ckanext/viewhelpers/tests/test_view.py to test_view.pyc creating build/bdist.linux-x86_64/egg/EGG-INFO copying ckanext_viewhelpers.egg-info/PKG-INFO -> build/bdist.linux-x86_64/egg/EGG-INFO copying ckanext_viewhelpers.egg-info/SOURCES.txt -> build/bdist.linux-x86_64/egg/EGG-INFO copying ckanext_viewhelpers.egg-info/dependency_links.txt -> build/bdist.linux-x86_64/egg/EGG-INFO copying ckanext_viewhelpers.egg-info/entry_points.txt -> build/bdist.linux-x86_64/egg/EGG-INFO copying ckanext_viewhelpers.egg-info/namespace_packages.txt -> build/bdist.linux-x86_64/egg/EGG-INFO copying ckanext_viewhelpers.egg-info/not-zip-safe -> build/bdist.linux-x86_64/egg/EGG-INFO copying ckanext_viewhelpers.egg-info/top_level.txt -> build/bdist.linux-x86_64/egg/EGG-INFO creating 'dist/ckanext_viewhelpers-0.1-py2.7.egg' and adding 'build/bdist.linux-x86_64/egg' to it removing 'build/bdist.linux-x86_64/egg' (and everything under it) Processing ckanext_viewhelpers-0.1-py2.7.egg removing '/usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/ckanext_viewhelpers-0.1-py2.7.egg' (and everything under it) creating /usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/ckanext_viewhelpers-0.1-py2.7.egg Extracting ckanext_viewhelpers-0.1-py2.7.egg to /usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages ckanext-viewhelpers 0.1 is already the active version in easy-install.pth Installed /usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/ckanext_viewhelpers-0.1-py2.7.egg Processing dependencies for ckanext-viewhelpers==0.1 Finished processing dependencies for ckanext-viewhelpers==0.1 However I am faced with this error which I could not solve after adding viewhelpers in my CKAN config file. paster serve /etc/ckan/default/development.ini Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/bin/paster", line 4, in <module> command.run() File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/paste/script/command.py", line 104, in run invoke(command, command_name, options, args[1:]) File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/paste/script/command.py", line 143, in invoke exit_code = runner.run(args) File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/paste/script/command.py", line 238, in run result = self.command() File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/paste/script/serve.py", line 284, in command relative_to=base, global_conf=vars) File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/paste/script/serve.py", line 321, in loadapp **kw) File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/paste/deploy/loadwsgi.py", line 247, in loadapp return loadobj(APP, uri, name=name, **kw) File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/paste/deploy/loadwsgi.py", line 271, in loadobj global_conf=global_conf) File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/paste/deploy/loadwsgi.py", line 296, in loadcontext global_conf=global_conf) File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/paste/deploy/loadwsgi.py", line 320, in _loadconfig return loader.get_context(object_type, name, global_conf) File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/paste/deploy/loadwsgi.py", line 454, in get_context section) File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/paste/deploy/loadwsgi.py", line 476, in _context_from_use object_type, name=use, global_conf=global_conf) File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/paste/deploy/loadwsgi.py", line 406, in get_context global_conf=global_conf) File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/paste/deploy/loadwsgi.py", line 296, in loadcontext global_conf=global_conf) File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/paste/deploy/loadwsgi.py", line 328, in _loadegg return loader.get_context(object_type, name, global_conf) File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/paste/deploy/loadwsgi.py", line 620, in get_context object_type, name=name) File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/paste/deploy/loadwsgi.py", line 646, in find_egg_entry_point possible.append((entry.load(), protocol, entry.name)) File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/pkg_resources.py", line 1989, in load entry = __import__(self.module_name, globals(),globals(), ['__name__']) File "/usr/lib/ckan/default/src/ckan/ckan/config/middleware.py", line 9, in <module> import sqlalchemy as sa ImportError: No module named sqlalchemyckanext-viewhelpers

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• How can I restart a service designed to run under supervise

  - by Terrence Brannon

  I have written a service designed to run under daemontools supervise. Because the run script refreshes a source code repository: git pull pod_server # serve up docs on source code via the web I desire for the script to restart every 5 minutes. The manpage for svc says that it applies all options to the service, so I thought this would work in cron: */5 * * * * svc -du etc/pod_server but it does not seem to be refreshing to source code repo with new pushes

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• Load local file in place of remote file (HTTP) address in Windows

  - by ev

  Hi there, I am trying to achieve something that you might typically use a hosts file for, but that isn't suitable here. I want a Windows PC to refer to a local file (I can serve it from a web server at localhost if needed) when it attempts to fetch a certain remote file via HTTP. However, I need other files from that particular remote web server to be fetched as usual. Any help appreciated.

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• Nginx: Maintenance page and localhost access

  - by ian.evans

  As I prepare to test some changes, I thought I'd set up a maintenance page block so I could do the testing. Just realized though that the maintenance block examples for nginx take the site down for everyone. How do you serve the maintenance page to visitors will still allowing localhost access. Should I just create a new server block listening on another port and deny all, allow 127.0.0.1?

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• How can I use apache to reverse proxy several OWA sites for multiple domains, each with it's own ser

  - by Helder

  Hi all, I want to use a linux reverse proxy (CentOS) to serve multiple OWA sites, for multiple Exchange servers, on different domains, so I can use only one public IP address. Can I do it with apache? Or should I use Squid? Thanks! Cheers, Helder

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• Will running CSF & Bastille cause any conflicts?

  - by MatW

  I'm taking my first steps into the world of un-managed servers, and have confused myself whilst reading through the 101 tutorials on server hardening that Google spews out! The most recent advice I have been given is to install both CSF and Bastille on my server (used to serve a consumer-facing ecommerce site and act as the business' email server), but my understanding was that both of these tools were an abstraction layer above netfilter / iptables. Will installing both packages cause any conflicts, or do they play well together?

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• Nginx Reverse Proxy : post_action if proxy cache hit - Possbile?

  - by anonymous-one

  We have recently found out about nginxes post_action. We were wondering it there was a way to use this directive if a proxy cache hit is made? The flow we were hoping on is as follows: 1) User request comes in 2) If cache HIT goto A / If cache MISS goto B A) 1) Serve Cached Result A) 2) post_action to another url on the backend B) 1) Server request from backend B) 2) Store result from backend Any ideas if this is possible via post_action? Thanks!

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• Unicorn: Sub-Url Generated Links Broken

  - by YellowJK

  I am currently trying to stand up an instance of redmine, however currently The generated links in my redmine instance are all broken. I am attempting to serve redmine from a sub-url i.e example.com/redmine I have searched, but I have not found any information on a prefix option (similar to mongrel) I currently have the assets and formatting working properly, from my previous question. Redmine served via Apache / Unicorn My current setup is apache / unicorn Thanks in adavanced

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• Ram cache on Windows Server 2008

  - by Jonas Lincoln

  Scenario: We have a file cluster on a UNC share. A couple of IIS web servers serve files from this UNC share. This is done through a IIS-module, and this module does not use the built-in IIS-caching feature. We'd like to cache the files from the UNC share in a ram disk. So far, we've found this product: http://www.superspeed.com/servers/supercache.php Are there other products that can help us cache the files from the UNC-share in ram?

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• Is it possible to configure TMG to impersonate a domain user for anonymous requests to a website?

  - by Daniel Root

  I would like to configure Forefront Threat Management Gateway (formerly ISA server) to impersonate a specific domain user for any anonymous request to a particular listener. For example, for any anonymous request to http://www.mycompany.com, I would like to serve up http://myinternal as though MYDOMAIN/GuestAccount were accessing the site. Is this even possible in ISA/TMG? If so, where do I go to configure this?

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• good, simple music streaming for windows?

  - by The Journeyman geek

  I've been using itunes to stream music over lan, and quite frankly the quality is terrible. On the other hand, its ease of use - having a simple client on either end, and it just 'working' with full control on my end is nice- the quality however is terrible - I'm wondering if there's any controllable streaming remote music serve for windows that will let me pick the bitrate it sends at, or uses whatever bitrate the original file is in, and just sends it, and has itself controllable at the client end, and will work acceptably over a wlan connection

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• Stripping cookies from image files ?

  - by iTech

  Hi, I want to achieve cookie free image serving as discussed here : http://code.google.com/speed/page-speed/docs/request.html#ServeFromCookielessDomain I have created a new sub-domain "static.example.com" serving only images, javscript and css (file serving restrictions made via filesmatch.conf file) , pls. tell how to make it serve cookie free images. Thanks

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• Combining DocumentRoot and proxypass in Apache Web server

  - by user10211

  I have an application running on tomcat and fronted with Apache. My server name is www.abc.com so in my vHost setting I have DocumentRoot /home/user/www.abc.com ServeName www.abc.com ProxyPass /app http://localhost:8080/app ProxyPassReverse /app http://localhost:8080/app The DocumentRoot has a static file index.html, which I would like to serve when www.abc.com is requested and all other requests should be directed to tomcat via the proxypass. Which is the easiest way to achieve this? Thanks

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• Caching proxy for yum and debian repositories

  - by Sushant Jain

  Does a caching proxy for yum exist, similar to approx for Debian repositories? Is there a way to have reprepro behave the same as approx? I have heard that approx was not as stable; besides, I would prefer the use of reprepro so that I could use my existing web server to serve the repository.

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• Nginx Global Error Page

  - by sidprak

  I see this question was also asked here: Configure Nginx global error page but there wasn't a suitable answer. I am currently allowing only certain IPs to some of my sites and would like Nginx to drop connections from the rest of the IPs instead of returning a 403. Ideally, I would like to do this without configuring each site separately. I have this in the http section: error_page 403 =444; But, now, it tries to serve up the page =444 instead of returning a 444.

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• Has anyone used uwsgi nginx and django for a high-load environment?

  - by kkubasik

  I was wondering if anyone has used uwsgi with nginx to serve a high-load django site before. If so, did they have any problems?

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• Nginx Reverse Proxy Node.js and Wordpress + Static Files Issue

  - by joemccann

  I have had quite a time trying to get nginx to serve static assets from my wordpress blog. Have a look at the config and let me know if you can help. ( https://gist.github.com/1130332 - to see the entire thing) server { listen 80; server_name subprint.com; access_log /var/www/subprint/logs/access.log; error_log /var/www/subprint/logs/error.log; root /var/www/subprint/server/public; # express serves static resources for subprint.com out of here location / { proxy_pass http://127.0.0.1:8124; root /var/www/subprint/server; access_log on; } #serve static assets location ~* ^(?!\/).+\.(jpg|jpeg|gif|png|ico|css|zip|tgz|gz|rar|bz2|pdf|txt|tar|wav|bmp|rtf|js|flv|swf|html|htm)$ { expires max; access_log off; } # the route for the wordpress blog # unfortunately the static assets (css, img, etc.) are not being pathed/served properly location /blog { root /var/www/localhost/public; index index.php; access_log /var/www/localhost/logs/access.log; error_log /var/www/localhost/logs/error.log; if (!-e $request_filename) { rewrite ^/(.*)$ /index.php?q=$1 last; break; } if (!-f $request_filename) { rewrite /blog$ /blog/index.php last; break; } } # actually serves the wordpress and subsequently phpmyadmin location ~* (?!\/blog).+\.php$ { fastcgi_pass localhost:9000; fastcgi_index index.php; fastcgi_param SCRIPT_FILENAME /var/www/localhost/public$fastcgi_script_name; fastcgi_param PATH_INFO $fastcgi_script_name; include /usr/local/nginx/conf/fastcgi_params; } # This works fine, but ONLY with a symlink inside the /var/www/localhost/public directory pointing to /usr/share/phpmyadmin location /phpmyadmin { index index.php; access_log /var/www/phpmyadmin/logs/access.log; error_log /var/www/phpmyadmin/logs/error.log; alias /usr/share/phpmyadmin/; if (!-f $request_filename) { rewrite /phpmyadmin$ /phpmyadmin/index.php permanent; break; } } # opt-in to the future add_header "X-UA-Compatible" "IE=Edge,chrome=1"; }

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• DNS resolution problems; dig SERVFAIL error

  - by JustinP

  I'm setting up a couple of dedicated servers, and having problems setting up my nameservers properly. One of these is a LEMP server (LAMP with nginx in place of Apache), and the other will function solely as an email server, running exim/dovecot/ASSP antispam (no Apache). The LEMP server is CentOS 5.5, with no control panel, while the email server is CentOS 5.5 as well, with cPanel/WHM. So, I've had problems getting DNS set up properly. I have two domains, each one pointing to one of these servers. The nameservers are registered correctly with the domain registrar, and the nameserver IPs are entered correctly as well. I've spoken to tech support at the registrar and they confirm that everything is set up on their end. Not knowing much about DNS, I googled nameservers and DNS until I nearly went blind, and spent hours messing with the configuration. Eventually, I got the LEMP server's DNS working properly (no cPanel). Pleased with this triumph, I'm trying to mimic that configuration and repeat the process with the email server, and it's just not happening. The nameserver starts and stops, but the domain doesn't resolve. Things I have tried Going through standard procedures to set up DNS in WHM Clearing all DNS information, uninstalling BIND, then reinstalling all of that and again going through WHM procedures for setting up DNS Clearing all DNS information, and setting up BIND via shell (completely outside of cPanel) by using my config and zone files from the LEMP server as a template named runs just fine, but nothing is resolving. When I "dig any example.com" I get a SERVFAIL message. Nslookups return no information. Here are my config and zone files. named.conf controls { inet 127.0.0.1 allow { localhost; } keys { coretext-key; }; }; options { listen-on port 53 { any; }; listen-on-v6 port 53 { ::1; }; directory "/var/named"; dump-file "/var/named/data/cache_dump.db"; statistics-file "/var/named/data/named_stats.txt"; memstatistics-file "/var/named/data/named_mem_stats.txt"; // Those options should be used carefully because they disable port // randomization // query-source port 53; // query-source-v6 port 53; allow-query { any; }; allow-query-cache { any; }; }; logging { channel default_debug { file "data/named.run"; severity dynamic; }; }; view "localhost_resolver" { match-clients { 127.0.0.0/24; }; match-destinations { localhost; }; recursion yes; //zone "." IN { // type hint; // file "/var/named/named.ca"; //}; include "/etc/named.rfc1912.zones"; }; view "internal" { /* This view will contain zones you want to serve only to "internal" clients that connect via your directly attached LAN interfaces - "localnets" . */ match-clients { localnets; }; match-destinations { localnets; }; recursion yes; zone "." IN { type hint; file "/var/named/named.ca"; }; // include "/var/named/named.rfc1912.zones"; // you should not serve your rfc1912 names to non-localhost clients. // These are your "authoritative" internal zones, and would probably // also be included in the "localhost_resolver" view above : zone "example.com" { type master; file "data/db.example.com"; }; zone "3.2.1.in-addr.arpa" { type master; file "data/db.1.2.3"; }; }; view "external" { /* This view will contain zones you want to serve only to "external" clients * that have addresses that are not on your directly attached LAN interface subnets: */ match-clients { any; }; match-destinations { any; }; recursion no; // you'd probably want to deny recursion to external clients, so you don't // end up providing free DNS service to all takers allow-query-cache { none; }; // Disable lookups for any cached data and root hints // all views must contain the root hints zone: //include "/etc/named.rfc1912.zones"; zone "." IN { type hint; file "/var/named/named.ca"; }; zone "example.com" { type master; file "data/db.example.com"; }; zone "3.2.1.in-addr.arpa" { type master; file "data/db.1.2.3"; }; }; include "/etc/rndc.key"; db.example.com $TTL 1D ; ; Zone file for example.com ; ; Mandatory minimum for a working domain ; @ IN SOA ns1.example.com. contact.example.com. ( 2011042905 ; serial 8H ; refresh 2H ; retry 4W ; expire 1D ; default_ttl ) NS ns1.example.com. NS ns2.example.com. ns1 A 1.2.3.4 ns2 A 1.2.3.5 example.com. A 1.2.3.4 localhost A 127.0.0.1 www CNAME example.com. mail CNAME example.com. ; db.1.2.3 $TTL 1D $ORIGIN 3.2.1.in-addr.arpa. @ IN SOA ns1.example.com contact.example.com. ( 2011042908 ; 8H ; 2H ; 4W ; 1D ; ) NS ns1.example.com. NS ns2.example.com. 4 PTR hostname.example.com. 5 PTR hostname.example.com. ; Also of note: both of these servers are managed. Tech support is very responsive, and largely useless. Hours go by with them asking me questions to narrow down what could be wrong, then they pass the ticket to the tech on the next shift, who ignores everything that's happened already and spend his whole shift asking all the same questions the last guy asked. So, in summary: *Nameservers, with IPs, are correctly registered with domain registrar *named is configured and running *...and must not be configured correctly, because nothing resolves. Any help would be great. I changed domains and IPs in the files to generics, but let me know if you need to know the domain in question. Thanks! UPDATE I found that I didn't have 127.0.0.1 in /etc/resolv.conf, so I added it, along with my two public IPs that I have named listening on. resolv.conf search www.example.com example.com nameserver 127.0.0.1 nameserver 7.8.9.10 ;Was in here by default, authoritative nameserver of hosting company nameserver 1.2.3.4 ;Public IP #1 nameserver 1.2.3.5 ;Public IP #2 Now when I DIG example.com from the host, it resolves. If I try to DIG from my other server (in the same datacenter), or from the internet, it times out or I get SERVFAIL.

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