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  • how to pass a variable value from one class to another

    - by Arunabha
    I have two packages one is com.firstBooks.series.db.parser which have a java file XMLParser.java, I have another package com.firstBooks.series79 which have a class called AppMain.NW I want to send the value of a variable called _xmlFileName frm AppMain class to the xmlFile variable in XMLParser class, I am posting the code for both the class, kindly help me. package com.firstBooks.series.db.parser; import java.io.IOException; import java.io.InputStream; import java.util.Vector; import net.rim.device.api.xml.parsers.DocumentBuilder; import net.rim.device.api.xml.parsers.DocumentBuilderFactory; import net.rim.device.api.xml.parsers.ParserConfigurationException; import org.w3c.dom.Document; import org.w3c.dom.Element; import org.w3c.dom.NodeList; import org.xml.sax.SAXException; import com.firstBooks.series.db.Question; public class XMLParser { private Document document; public static Vector questionList; public static String xmlFile; public XMLParser() { questionList = new Vector(); } public void parseXMl() throws SAXException, IOException, ParserConfigurationException { // Build a document based on the XML file. DocumentBuilderFactory factory = DocumentBuilderFactory.newInstance(); DocumentBuilder builder = factory.newDocumentBuilder(); InputStream inputStream = getClass().getResourceAsStream(xmlFile); document = builder.parse(inputStream); } public void parseDocument() { Element element = document.getDocumentElement(); NodeList nl = element.getElementsByTagName("question"); if (nl != null && nl.getLength() > 0) { for (int i = 0; i < nl.getLength(); i++) { Element ele = (Element) nl.item(i); Question question = getQuestions(ele); questionList.addElement(question); } } } private Question getQuestions(Element element) { String title = getTextValue(element, "title"); String choice1 = getTextValue(element, "choice1"); String choice2 = getTextValue(element, "choice2"); String choice3 = getTextValue(element, "choice3"); String choice4 = getTextValue(element, "choice4"); String answer = getTextValue(element, "answer"); String rationale = getTextValue(element, "rationale"); Question Questions = new Question(title, choice1, choice2, choice3, choice4, answer, rationale); return Questions; } private String getTextValue(Element ele, String tagName) { String textVal = null; NodeList nl = ele.getElementsByTagName(tagName); if (nl != null && nl.getLength() > 0) { Element el = (Element) nl.item(0); textVal = el.getFirstChild().getNodeValue(); } return textVal; } } Nw the code for AppMain class //#preprocess package com.firstBooks.series79; import net.rim.device.api.ui.UiApplication; import com.firstBooks.series.ui.screens.HomeScreen; public class AppMain extends UiApplication { public static String _xmlFileName; public static boolean _Lite; public static int _totalNumofQuestions; public static void initialize(){ //#ifndef FULL /* //#endif _xmlFileName = "/res/Series79_FULL.xml"; _totalNumofQuestions = 50; _Lite = false; //#ifndef FULL */ //#endif //#ifndef LITE /* //#endif _xmlFileName = "/res/Series79_LITE.xml"; _totalNumofQuestions = 10; _Lite = true; //#ifndef LITE */ //#endif } private AppMain() { initialize(); pushScreen(new HomeScreen()); } public static void main(String args[]) { new AppMain().enterEventDispatcher(); } }

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  • Use JQuery to target unwrapped text inside a div

    - by Chris
    I'm trying to find a way to wrap just the inner text of an element, I don't want to target any other inner dom elements. For example. <ul> <li class="this-one"> this is my item <ul> <li> this is a sub element </li> </ul> </li> </ul> I want to use jQuery to do this. <ul> <li class="this-one"> <div class="tree-item-text">this is my item</div> <ul> <li> <div class="tree-item-text">this is a sub element</div> </li> </ul> </li> </ul> A little background is I need to make an in-house tree structure ui element, So I'm using the UL structure to represent this. But I don't want developers to have to do any special formatting to use the widget. update: I just wanted to add the purpose of this is I want to add a click listener to be able to expand the elements under the li, However, since those elements are within the li the click listener will activate even when clicking on the children, So I want to attach it to the text instead, to do this the text needs to be targetable, which is why I want to wrap it in a div of it's own. So far I've come up with wrapping all the inner elements of the li in a div and then moving all inner dom elements back to the original parent. But this code is pretty heavy for something that might be much simpler and not require so much DOM manipulation. EDIT: Want to share the first pseudo alternative I came up with but I think it is very tasking for what I want to accomplish. var innerTextThing = $("ul.tree ul").parents("li").wrapInner("<div class='tree-node-text'>"); $(innerTextThing.find(".tree-node-text")).each(function(){ $(this).after($(this).children("ul")); }); Answered: I ended up doing the following, FYI i only have to worry about FF and IE compatibility so it's untested in other browsers. //this will wrap all li textNodes in a div so we can target them. $(that).find("li").contents() .filter(function () { return this.nodeType == 3; }).each(function () { if ( //these are for IE and FF compatibility (this.textContent != undefined && this.textContent.trim() != "") || (this.innerText != undefined && this.innerText.trim() != "") ) { $(this).wrap("<div class='tree-node-text'>"); } });

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  • how to pass one variable value frm one class to the oder

    - by Arunabha
    i hav two packages one is com.firstBooks.series.db.parser which hav a java file XMLParser.java,i hav another package com.firstBooks.series79 which hav a class called AppMain.NW i want to send the value of a variable called _xmlFileName frm AppMain class to the xmlFile variable in XMLParser class,i am posting the codes for both the class,kindly help me. package com.firstBooks.series.db.parser; import java.io.IOException; import java.io.InputStream; import java.util.Vector; import net.rim.device.api.xml.parsers.DocumentBuilder; import net.rim.device.api.xml.parsers.DocumentBuilderFactory; import net.rim.device.api.xml.parsers.ParserConfigurationException; import org.w3c.dom.Document; import org.w3c.dom.Element; import org.w3c.dom.NodeList; import org.xml.sax.SAXException; import com.firstBooks.series.db.Question; public class XMLParser { private Document document; public static Vector questionList; public static String xmlFile; public XMLParser() { questionList = new Vector(); } public void parseXMl() throws SAXException, IOException, ParserConfigurationException { // Build a document based on the XML file. DocumentBuilderFactory factory = DocumentBuilderFactory.newInstance(); DocumentBuilder builder = factory.newDocumentBuilder(); InputStream inputStream = getClass().getResourceAsStream(xmlFile); document = builder.parse(inputStream); } public void parseDocument() { Element element = document.getDocumentElement(); NodeList nl = element.getElementsByTagName("question"); if (nl != null && nl.getLength() > 0) { for (int i = 0; i < nl.getLength(); i++) { Element ele = (Element) nl.item(i); Question question = getQuestions(ele); questionList.addElement(question); } } } private Question getQuestions(Element element) { String title = getTextValue(element, "title"); String choice1 = getTextValue(element, "choice1"); String choice2 = getTextValue(element, "choice2"); String choice3 = getTextValue(element, "choice3"); String choice4 = getTextValue(element, "choice4"); String answer = getTextValue(element, "answer"); String rationale = getTextValue(element, "rationale"); Question Questions = new Question(title, choice1, choice2, choice3, choice4, answer, rationale); return Questions; } private String getTextValue(Element ele, String tagName) { String textVal = null; NodeList nl = ele.getElementsByTagName(tagName); if (nl != null && nl.getLength() > 0) { Element el = (Element) nl.item(0); textVal = el.getFirstChild().getNodeValue(); } return textVal; } } Nw the code for AppMain class //#preprocess package com.firstBooks.series79; import net.rim.device.api.ui.UiApplication; import com.firstBooks.series.ui.screens.HomeScreen; public class AppMain extends UiApplication { public static String _xmlFileName; public static boolean _Lite; public static int _totalNumofQuestions; public static void initialize(){ //#ifndef FULL /* //#endif _xmlFileName = "/res/Series79_FULL.xml"; _totalNumofQuestions = 50; _Lite = false; //#ifndef FULL */ //#endif //#ifndef LITE /* //#endif _xmlFileName = "/res/Series79_LITE.xml"; _totalNumofQuestions = 10; _Lite = true; //#ifndef LITE */ //#endif } private AppMain() { initialize(); pushScreen(new HomeScreen()); } public static void main(String args[]) { new AppMain().enterEventDispatcher(); } }

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  • How to convert xlsx files into 2003 xls files programatically in C#?

    - by Victor Rodrigues
    I've found ExcelPackage, a better library than Excel Interop API to create and mantain programatically excel sheets, but they are generated in .xlsx. Most of people that will see the files have only office 2003 installed, so I need to convert, in my C# code, the final result into a .xls file. Do you know any way to do it in C# code? ** UPDATE I'm trying to use SaveAs method, but it doesn't work, it just doesn't do anything, or return the error 0x800A03EC .

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  • Creating Excel or Excel compatible Spreadsheets on the server side in C#

    - by CVertex
    I'd like to make server-side excel compatible spreadsheets that maybe use OpenXML or a structured data format. I've used Office Interop before to generate Excel spreadsheets, but those apps run on a PC that has office installed. For this web project I'm building, the server doesn't have office installed (and they don't want to buy it). What's the best library for me to use that allows me to generate office compatible spreadsheets from a windows server 2k8 using IIS7? Some additional requirements Ideally, free Allows for simple cell formulas that can be inserted at runtime

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  • npoi export from datatable

    - by Iulian
    I have an asp.net website that will generate some excel files with 7-8 sheets of data. The best solution so far seems to be NPOI, this can create excel files without installing excel on the server, and has a nice API simillar to the excel interop. However i can't find a way to dump an entire datatable in excel similar to CopyFromRecordset Any tips on how to do that , or a better solution than NPOI ?

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  • Create a UPnP Control Point in Silverlight

    - by James Cadd
    I'm interested in creating a UPnP control point in Silverlight. To me that implies that I'll need to use COM interop with Microsoft's upnp.dll (and the SL application will have to be out of browser and platform specific). Is there any source code available in C# that shows how to create a control point with Microsoft's stack? If there are other options available I'd like to hear about it, from reading around the web it appears the MS stack is buggy.

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  • SharpFFmpeg dll references

    - by Rodney Burton
    Looking at SharpFFmpeg project (c# interop library for ffmpeg) I noticed it references avcodec.dll and avformat.dll. What I have are libavcodec.dll and libavformat.dll. Are these the same and if not where do the non-lib versions come from?

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  • How do I set a Group Policy's Password Policy in C#

    - by user343304
    I am trying to retrieve a group policy from a Windows Server 2008 Active Directory and change the minimum password age, maximum password age, and minimum password length in a C# application. Is there a way to do this? So far I have only found out how to create new Group Policy objects using Interop.GPMGMTLib (gpmgmt.dll), yet I haven't figured out how to change the policy's password rules and I am not sure if there is an easier way.

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  • HRESULT: 0x80040154 (REGDB_E_CLASSNOTREG)).

    - by user362130
    Hi there! I building a GIS Application but wenever i run the code its giving me this error System.Runtime.InteropServices.COMException was unhandled Message= Retrieving the COM class factory for component with **CLSID {FBF5715D-A05D-11D4-A64C-0008C711C8C1} failed** due to the following error: 80040154 Class not registered (Exception from HRESULT: 0x80040154 (REGDB_E_CLASSNOTREG)). and also in the Project Properties the Option for Register For COM Interop is disabled Please help me.....can anyone tell how to fix this error Thanks in Advance

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  • Usage of the "SAP Function OCX"

    - by Elmex
    Makes it sense to use the "SAP Function Control" (wdtlog.ocx in connection with wdtlog.ocx and wdtaocx.ocx) to access (via the Interop-Assemblys SAPFunctionsOCX.dll, SAPLogonCtrl.dll and SAPTableFactoryCtrl.dll) to SAP with RFCs instead of the no longer supported SAP Connector of .NET ? I know there is also the product ERPConnect of the company "Theobald Software", but I only need RFC access ! Does anybody know, if these controls will also be supported in the future (ECC6.0) ?

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  • An unspecified error occurred on the render thread. (NotifyPartitionIsZombie)

    - by red-X
    oke heres the problem, I have a ContentControl3D object from thriple in that im creating a LibraryStack with images it runs fine, until i run the function where the LibraryStack gets created and filled. when i click on any of the objects inside i get the following error An unspecified error occurred on the render thread. with stacktrace at System.Windows.Media.MediaContext.NotifyPartitionIsZombie(Int32 failureCode) at System.Windows.Media.MediaContext.NotifyChannelMessage() at System.Windows.Interop.HwndTarget.HandleMessage(Int32 msg, IntPtr wparam, IntPtr lparam) at System.Windows.Interop.HwndSource.HwndTargetFilterMessage(IntPtr hwnd, Int32 msg, IntPtr wParam, IntPtr lParam, Boolean& handled) at MS.Win32.HwndWrapper.WndProc(IntPtr hwnd, Int32 msg, IntPtr wParam, IntPtr lParam, Boolean& handled) at MS.Win32.HwndSubclass.DispatcherCallbackOperation(Object o) at System.Windows.Threading.ExceptionWrapper.InternalRealCall(Delegate callback, Object args, Boolean isSingleParameter) at System.Windows.Threading.ExceptionWrapper.TryCatchWhen(Object source, Delegate callback, Object args, Boolean isSingleParameter, Delegate catchHandler) at System.Windows.Threading.Dispatcher.WrappedInvoke(Delegate callback, Object args, Boolean isSingleParameter, Delegate catchHandler) at System.Windows.Threading.Dispatcher.InvokeImpl(DispatcherPriority priority, TimeSpan timeout, Delegate method, Object args, Boolean isSingleParameter) at System.Windows.Threading.Dispatcher.Invoke(DispatcherPriority priority, Delegate method, Object arg) at MS.Win32.HwndSubclass.SubclassWndProc(IntPtr hwnd, Int32 msg, IntPtr wParam, IntPtr lParam) at MS.Win32.UnsafeNativeMethods.DispatchMessage(MSG& msg) at System.Windows.Threading.Dispatcher.PushFrameImpl(DispatcherFrame frame) at System.Windows.Threading.Dispatcher.PushFrame(DispatcherFrame frame) at System.Windows.Threading.Dispatcher.Run() at System.Windows.Application.RunDispatcher(Object ignore) at System.Windows.Application.RunInternal(Window window) at System.Windows.Application.Run(Window window) at System.Windows.Application.Run() at WelkoMap.App.Main() in F:\MediaGarde\Surface\Development\WelkoMap\WelkoMap\obj\Debug\App.g.cs:line 0 at System.AppDomain._nExecuteAssembly(Assembly assembly, String[] args) at System.AppDomain.ExecuteAssembly(String assemblyFile, Evidence assemblySecurity, String[] args) at Microsoft.VisualStudio.HostingProcess.HostProc.RunUsersAssembly() at System.Threading.ThreadHelper.ThreadStart_Context(Object state) at System.Threading.ExecutionContext.Run(ExecutionContext executionContext, ContextCallback callback, Object state) at System.Threading.ThreadHelper.ThreadStart() heres the code that adds and creates the LibraryStack and fills it public void ReplaceBackContent(List<Image> images, List<MediaElement> videos) { ContentControl3D control = this.TryFindParent<ContentControl3D>(); if (control == null) { return; } LibraryStack stack = new LibraryStack(); foreach (Image image in images) { if (image.Parent != null) { continue; } LibraryStackItem item = new LibraryStackItem(); item.Content = image; stack.Items.Add(item); } control.BackContent = stack; } Since it has the NotifyPartitionIsZombie error i already installed windows update KB967634 which had absolutely no effect at all

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  • activeX component in axapta

    - by Nico
    hi folks, i'm struggling with an .net activeX i try to use in ms axapta 2009. using this component on my local machine where it was compiled, it's working quite fine. it can be added as activeX element on a form, the methods and events are listed in the axapta-activeX-explorer and i can interact with it without any problems. but trying to distribute the dll to other clients isn't working as intended. the registration of the dll via regasm /codebase /tlb works properly - getting the message, registration was successful. the component is also listed when selecting an activeX-element to add in ax, but neither functions nor properties are listed. and launching the form results in an errormessage - activeX component CLSID ... not found on system, not installed. the classID is indeed the one, defined in .net. strange things happen, having a look on the task-manager. the activeX-component itself is just a wrapper to interact with a com-application. when launching the ax-form with the not working and _not_installed_!! activeX-thing, the taskmanager shows a new process of the com-application, which is instanciated by the activeX :/ things i tried: using different versions of regasm, eg \Windows\Microsoft.NET\Framework\v2.0.50727 ; C:\Windows\Microsoft.NET\Framework64\v2.0.50727 using new GUIDs in .net, prior removing the old ones from the registry compiling, using different versions of the .net framework doing registration via regasm, regasm /codebase, regasm /codebase /tlb, using a visual-studio-setup running registration via command-line as administrator running setup as administrator running even ax as administrator on client-machine moving dll to a different folder followed by new registration ( windows/system32; ax/client/bin ) installing to GAC ( gacutil /i ) different project-options in visual studio ( COM-Visibility; register for COM-Interop; different targetPlatform ) hoped for the fact, that compiling in visual studio with register for COM-Interop option enabled does something more than just the regasm-registration, i used a registry-monitor-microsoft-tool for logging the registry-activity which happend during compilation. using these logs to create all registry-entries on the target-client in addition didn't work either. any hints or help would be so much appreciated! this thing is blocking me for days now :(

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  • wpf and win32 overlapping issue

    - by priya-hatipkar
    I have a wpf Window, which has wpf control and windows forms control hosted in WindowsFormsHost. The expected behavior is that the WPF control should be rendered on top of WindowsFormsHost. Unfortunately, this is a limitation in the interop story, WindowsFormsHost elements are always drawn on top, and don't get affected by z-order. http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms742522.aspx Is there any workaround to solve this problem? Regards, Priya

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  • Windows App spellcheck

    - by Lee
    Hi... I was wondering if there is another way to spell check a Windows app instead what I've been of using: "Microsoft.Office.Interop.Word". I really don't want to buy a spell checking add-on.. and would like the spell check to be dynamic..any suggestions?

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  • Documentation for the Excel object model.

    - by mcoolbeth
    The documentation for .NET's Excel interop API at msdn.com seems rather sparse. Does anyone know of more thorough documentation elsewhere on the web? I am looking for something that would, for example, list and explain all the properties of a Worksheet object. Thanks.

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  • How do I avoid the loader lock?

    - by Mark0978
    We have a managed app, that uses an assembly. That assembly uses some unmanaged C++ code. The Managed C++ code is in a dll, that depends on several other dlls. All of those Dlls are loaded by this code. (We load all the dll's that ImageCore.dll depends on first, so we can tell which ones are missing, otherwise it would just show up as ImageCore.dll failed to load, and the log file would give no clues as to why). class Interop { private const int DONT_RESOLVE_DLL_REFERENCES = 1; private static log4net.ILog log = log4net.LogManager.GetLogger("Imagecore.NET"); [DllImport("kernel32.dll", CharSet = CharSet.Auto, SetLastError = true)] private static extern IntPtr LoadLibraryEx(string fileName, IntPtr dummy, int flags); [DllImport("kernel32.dll", CharSet = CharSet.Auto, SetLastError = true)] private static extern IntPtr FreeLibrary(IntPtr hModule); static private String[] libs = { "log4cplus.dll", "yaz.dll", "zlib1.dll", "libxml2.dll" }; public static void PreloadAssemblies() { for (int i=0; i < libs.Length; ++i) { String libname = libs[i]; IntPtr hModule = LoadLibraryEx(libname, IntPtr.Zero, DONT_RESOLVE_DLL_REFERENCES); if(hModule == IntPtr.Zero) { log.Error("Unable to pre-load '" + libname + "'"); throw new DllNotFoundException("Unable to pre-load '" + libname + "'"); } else { FreeLibrary(hModule); } } IntPtr h = LoadLibraryEx("ImageCore.dll", IntPtr.Zero, 0); if (h == IntPtr.Zero) { throw new DllNotFoundException("Unable to pre-load ImageCore.dll"); } } } And this code is called by public class ImageDoc : IDisposable { static ImageDoc() { ImageHawk.ImageCore.Utility.Interop.PreloadAssemblies(); } ... } Which is static constructor. As near as I can understand it, as soon as we attempt to use an ImageDoc object, the dll that contains that assembly is loaded and as part of that load, the static constructor is called which in turn causes several other DLLs to be loaded as well. What I'm trying to figure out, is how do we defer loading of those DLLs so that we don't run smack dab into this loader lock that is being kicked out because of the static constructor. I've pieced this much together by looking at: http://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/vsto/thread/dd192d7e-ce92-49ce-beef-3816c88e5a86 http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa290048%28VS.71%29.aspx http://forums.devx.com/showthread.php?t=53529 http://www.yoda.arachsys.com/csharp/beforefieldinit.html But I just can't seem to find a way to get these external DLLs to load without it happening at the point the class is loading. I think I need to get these LoadLibrary calls out of the static constructor, but don't know how to get them called before they are needed (except for how it is done here). I would prefer to not have to put this kind of knowledge of the dlls into every app that uses this assembly. (And I'm not sure that would even fix the problem.... The strange thing is that the exception only appears to be happening while running within the debugger, not while running outside the debugger.

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  • add AxWEBBrowser in my toolbox

    - by nero
    How can I add AxWEBBrowser in my toolbox? I tried to customized my toolbox by TOOLS - Customized toolbox - Com components - but i didnt found any AxWEBBrowser. I also include in my reference the AxInterop.SHDocVw and Interop.SHDocVw. What else i need to do to add AxWEBBrowser? Thanks..

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  • Photoshop scripting form .Net 3.5

    - by Mendy
    I read recently this post that explain how to use photoshop COM component from .net code. The problem that I don't see a reference to Interop.Photoshop.dll in Add Reference dialog COM column. Do anyone that have photoshop cs4 installed can see it? I wonder maybe it showed only in .net 1 platform...

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  • Range subtraction in the Excel Object Model

    - by mcoolbeth
    When using Excel Interop libraries from .NET, I can find a Range object representing the cell offset from Range X by calling something like. Range Y = X.Range[2,3]; But what should I do to perform the inverse operation, ie: I have two Range objects, A and B, and I would like to find out by how many rows/columns B is offset from A. Does anyone know the easiest way to do this? Is there a library function? Thanks.

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  • Problem getting correct parameters for C# P/Invoke call to C++ dll

    - by Jim Jones
    Trying to Interop a functionality from the Outside In API from Oracle. Have the following function: SCCERR EXOpenExport {VTHDOC hDoc, VTDWORD dwOutputId, VTDWORD dwSpecType, VTLPVOID pSpec, VTDWORD dwFlags, VTSYSPARAM dwReserved, VTLPVOID pCallbackFunc, VTSYSPARAM dwCallbackData, VTLPHEXPORT phExport); From the header files I reduced the parameters to: typedef VTSYSPARAM VTHDOC, VTLPHDOC * typedef DWORD_PTR VTSYSPARAM typedef unsigned long DWORD_PTR typedef unsigned long VTDWORD typedef VTVOID* VTLPVOID #define VTVOID void typedef VTHDOC VTHEXPORT, *VTLPEXPORT These are for 32 bit windows Going through the header files, the example programs, and the documentation I found: 1. That pSpec could be a pointer to a buffer or NULL, so I set it to a IntPtr.Zero (documentation). 2. That dwFlags and dwReserved according to the documentation "Must be set by the developer to 0". 3. That pCallbackFunc can be set to NULL if I don't want to handle callbacks. 4. That the last two are based on structs that I wrote C# wrappers for using the [StructLayout(LayoutKind.Sequential)]. Then instatiated an instance and generated the parameters by first creating a IntPtr with Marshal.AllocHGlobal(Marshal.SizeOf(instance)), then getting the address value which is passed as a uint for dwCallbackData and a IntPtr for phExport. The final parameter list is as follows: 1. phDoc as a IntPtr which was loaded with an address by the DAOpenDocument function called before. 2. dwOutputId as uint set to 1535 which represents FI_JPEGFIF 3. dwSpecType as int set to 2 which represents IOTYPE_ANSIPATH 4. pSpec as an IntPtr.Zero where the output will be written 5. dwFlags as uint set to 0 as directed 6. dwReserved as uint set to 0 as directed 7. pCallbackFunc as IntPtr set to NULL as I will handle results 8. dwCallBackDate as uint the address of a buffer for a struct 9. phExport as IntPtr to another struct buffer still get an undefined error from the API. Meaning that the call returns a 961 which is not defined in any of the header files. In the past I have gotten this when my choice of parameter types are incorrect. I started out using Interop Assistant which was helpful in learning how many of the parameter types get translated. It is however limited by how well I am able to glean the correct native type from the header files. For example the hDoc parameter used in the preceding function was defined as a non-filesytem handle, so attempted to use Marshal to create a handle, then used an IntPtr, and finally it turned out to be an int (actually it was &phDoc used here). So is there a more scientific way of doing this, other than trial and error? Jim

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