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  • Silverlight Cream for April 24, 2010 -- #846

    - by Dave Campbell
    In this Issue: Michael Washington, Timmy Kokke, Pete Brown, Paul Yanez, Emil Stoychev, Jeremy Likness, and Pavan Podila. Shoutouts: If you've got some time to spend, the User Experience Kit is packed with info: User Experience Kit, and just plain fun to navigate ... thanks Scott Barnes for reminding me about it! Jesse Liberty is looking for some help organizing and cataloging posts for a new project he's got going: Help Wanted Emil Stoychev posted Slides and demos from my talk on Silverlight 4 From SilverlightCream.com: Silverlight 4 Drag and Drop File Manager Michael Washington has a post up about a Silverlight Drag and Drop File Manager in MVVM, but a secondary important point about the post is that he and Alan Beasley followed strict Designer/Developer rules on this... you recognized Alan's ListBox didn't you? Changing CSS with jQuery syntax in Silverlight using jLight Timmy Kokke is using jLight as introduced in a prior post to interact with the DOM from Silverlight. Essential Silverlight and WPF Skills: The UI Thread, Dispatchers, Background Workers and Async Network Programming Pete Brown has a great backrounder up for WPF and Silverlight devs on threading and networking, good comments too so far. Fluid layout and Fullscreen in Silverlight Paul Yanez has a quick post and demo up on forcing full-screen with a fluid layout, all code included -- and it doesn't take much Data Binding in Silverlight Emil Stoychev has a great long tutorial up on DataBinding in Silverlight ... he hits all the major points with text, samples, and code... definitely one to read! Yet Another MVVM Locator Pattern Another not-necessarily Silverlight post from Jeremy Likness -- but definitely a good one on MVVM and locator patterns. The SpiderWebControl for Silverlight Pavan Podila has a 'SpiderWebControl' for Silverlight 4 up... this is a great network graph control with any sort of feature I can think of... check out the demo, then grab the code... or the other way around, your choice :) Stay in the 'Light! Twitter SilverlightNews | Twitter WynApse | WynApse.com | Tagged Posts | SilverlightCream Join me @ SilverlightCream | Phoenix Silverlight User Group Technorati Tags: Silverlight    Silverlight 3    Silverlight 4    Windows Phone MIX10

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  • ArchBeat Link-o-Rama for 11/30/2011

    - by Bob Rhubart
    Coding - the new Latin | @BBCRoryCJ BBC Technology Correspondent Rory Cellan-Jones reports on why "the campaign to boost the teaching of computer skills - particularly coding - in schools is gathering force." BPM Business Value Patterns | SOA Partner Community Blog Juergen Kress shares the presentation he and Matthias Ziegler from Accenture delivered at the SOA & BPM Integration Days event in Germany in October. Coherence 3.7.1 Resources Busy blogger Juergen Kress shares links to screencasts and other resources for those interested in Oracle Coherence 3.7.1. OBIEE 11.1.1 - Introduction to OBIEE 11g Full Sample App "The OBIEE 11g Full Sample App (FSA) is a comprehensive collection of examples designed to demonstrate the latest Oracle BIEE 11g capabilities and design best practices." Solaris 11 Customer Maintenance Lifecycle | Gerry Haskins Gerry Haskins launches a new blog devoted to Solaris "policies, best practices, clarifications, and lots of other stuff." Harnessing Business Events for Predictive Decision Making - part 1 / 3 | Sanjeev Sharma "Data growth is outpacing storage capacity by a factor of two and computing power is still very much bounded by Moore's Law, doubling only every 18 months," says Sanjeev Sharma. The Latest Research from the SEI | Douglas C. SchmidtSchmidt shares information on several recently published Software Engineering Institute (SEI) technical reports that "highlight the latest work of SEI technologists in Agile methods, insider threat,the SMART Grid Maturity Model, acquisition, and CMMI." Tiger/Line Shape Files and Oracle | Bradley D. Brown "Have you ever needed to load an ESRI "shape file" and wondered if that's an easy effort or a difficult effort? I know I have and I assumed that it was a pretty difficult effort. However, I learned today that's actually pretty easy!" -- Oracle ACE Director Bradley Brown of TUSC. Webcast: Enterprise Clouds with Oracle VM Tuesday, December 6, 2011, 9:00 am PT / Noon ET. Featuring Adam Hawley (Senior Director of Product Management, Oracle) and Dan Herrup (Principal Systems Engineer, Oracle Corporate Citizenship). SOA Made Simple; Architects in AZ; Cloud Migration Introduction This week on the Architect Home Page on OTN.

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  • links for 2011-02-25

    - by Bob Rhubart
    The (non) Importance of Language (Enterprise Architecture at Oracle) (tags: ping.fm entarch) ArchBeat (tags: ping.fm) Andrejus Baranovskis's Blog: Beware of Hackers - Keep ADF Task Flows inside WEB-INF Oracle ACE Director Andrejus Baranovskis with a word of caution. (tags: oracle oracleace otn adf) Introduction to WebCenter Personalization: The Conductor; (WebCenter Personalization) Steve Pepper offers an introduction to the Conductor component in Oracle WebCenter Personalization. (tags: oracle otn webcenter enterprise2.0) Batch Aggregation of files in BPEL process instances based on correlation AMIS Technology blog Oracle ACE Director Lucas Jellema shares his solution to a colleague's challenge. (tags: oracle otn oracleace soa bpel) Bradley D. Brown: Watch Out Larry...Here they Come! "Every Fortune 500 company that I've talked to in the last few months is trying to figure out their mobile strategy. Organizations are getting the push from the top down - i.e. executives are asking for data from their mobile devices." - Oracle ACE Director Brad Brown (tags: oracle otn ipad mobilecomputing entarch oracleace) Oracle Technology Network Developer Day - You are the future of Java. Boston, March 3. Designed for the enterprise professional, this event will teach you about the latest developments in the Java Virtual Machine, Java EE, Java SE, Java on the Desktop, and Embedded Java. Whether you're a developer or architect, or managing a team of them, this is an event you can't miss. (tags: oracle otn java)

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  • ArchBeat Link-o-Rama for December 14, 2012

    - by Bob Rhubart
    JMS Step 6 - How to Set Up an AQ JMS (Advanced Queueing JMS) for SOA Purposes | John-Brown Evans John Brown Evans' post continues the series of JMS articles that demonstrate how to use JMS queues in a SOA context. "This example leads you through the creation of an Oracle database Advanced Queue and the related WebLogic server objects in order to use AQ JMS in connection with a SOA composite," John explains. And if you missed the first 5 steps, don't worry – the post includes links. Cloud Deployment Models | B. R. Clouse Looking out for the cloud newbies... "As the cloud paradigm grows in depth and breadth, more readers are approaching the topic for the first time, or from a new perspective," says B. R. Clouse. "This blog is a basic review of cloud deployment models, to help orient newcomers and neophytes." Understanding the JSF Lifecycle and ADF Optimized Lifecycle | Steven Davelaar Would you call that a surprise ending? Oracle WebCenter & ADF Architecture Team (A-Team) member learned a lot more than he expected while creating a UKOUG presentation entitled "What you need to know about JSF to be succesful with ADF." Using Oracle Enterprise Manager Cloud Control 12c with Filer Snapshotting | Porus Homi Havewala This concise technical article includes a script for database backup using snapshots and cataloging in RMAN. Thought for the Day "A program which perfectly meets a lousy specification is a lousy program." — Cem Kaner Source: SoftwareQuotes.com

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  • How to visually "connect" skybox edges with terrain model

    - by David
    I'm working on a simple airplane game where I use skybox cube rendered using disabled depth test. Very close to the bottom side of the skybox is my terrain model. What bothers me is that the terrain is not connected to the skybox bottom. This is not visible while the plane flies low, but as it gets some altitude, the terrain looks smaller because of the perspective. Since the skybox center is always same as the camera position, the skybox moves with the plane, but the terrain goes into the distance. Ok, I think you understand the problem. My question is how to fix it. It's an airplane game so limiting max altitude is not possible. I thought about some way to stretch terrain to always cover whole bottom side of the skybox cube, but that doesn't feel right and I don't even know how would I calculate new terrain dimensions every frame. Here are some screenshot of games where you can clearly see the problem: (oops, I cannot post images yet) darker brown is the skybox bottom here: http://i.stack.imgur.com/iMsAf.png untextured brown is the skybox bottom here: http://i.stack.imgur.com/9oZr7.png

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  • Table header is not shown

    - by Vivien
    My error is that the table headers of my two tables are not shown. Right now I am setting the header with new JTable(data, columnNames). Here is an example which shows, my problem: public class Test extends JFrame { private static final long serialVersionUID = -4682396888922360841L; private JMenuBar menuBar; private JMenu mAbout; private JMenu mMain; private JTabbedPane tabbedPane; public SettingsTab settings = new SettingsTab(); private void addMenuBar() { menuBar = new JMenuBar(); mMain = new JMenu("Main"); mAbout = new JMenu("About"); menuBar.add(mMain); menuBar.add(mAbout); setJMenuBar(menuBar); } public void createTabBar() { tabbedPane = new JTabbedPane(JTabbedPane.TOP); tabbedPane.addTab("Settings", settings.createLayout()); add(tabbedPane); tabbedPane.setTabLayoutPolicy(JTabbedPane.SCROLL_TAB_LAYOUT); } private void makeLayout() { setTitle("Test"); setLayout(new BorderLayout()); setPreferredSize(new Dimension(1000, 500)); addMenuBar(); createTabBar(); setDefaultCloseOperation(JFrame.EXIT_ON_CLOSE); pack(); setVisible(true); } public void start() { javax.swing.SwingUtilities.invokeLater(new Runnable() { public void run() { makeLayout(); } }); } public static void main(String[] args) { Test gui = new Test(); gui.start(); } public class SettingsTab extends JPanel { public JScrollPane createLayout() { JPanel panel = new JPanel(new MigLayout("")); JScrollPane sp = new JScrollPane(panel); sp.setVerticalScrollBarPolicy(ScrollPaneConstants.VERTICAL_SCROLLBAR_ALWAYS); panel.add(table1(), "growx, wrap"); panel.add(Box.createRigidArea(new Dimension(0,10))); panel.add(table2()); // panel.add(Box.createRigidArea(new Dimension(0,10))); return sp; } public JPanel table1() { JPanel panel1 = new JPanel(); String[] columnNames = {"First Name", "Last Name"}; Object[][] data = { {"Kathy", "Smith"}, {"John", "Doe"}, {"Sue", "Black"}, {"Jane", "White"}, {"Joe", "Brown"}, {"John", "Doe"}, {"Sue", "Black"}, {"Jane", "White"}, {"Joe", "Brown"} }; final JTable table = new JTable(data, columnNames); tableProperties(table); panel1.add(table); panel1.setLayout(new BoxLayout(panel1, BoxLayout.Y_AXIS)); return panel1; } public JPanel table2() { JPanel panel1 = new JPanel(); String[] columnNames = {"First Name", "Last Name"}; Object[][] data = { {"Kathy", "Smith"}, {"John", "Doe"}, {"Sue", "Black"}, {"Jane", "White"}, {"Joe", "Brown"}, {"John", "Doe"}, {"Sue", "Black"}, {"Jane", "White"}, {"Joe", "Brown"} }; final JTable table = new JTable(data, columnNames); table.setPreferredScrollableViewportSize(new Dimension(500, 70)); table.setFillsViewportHeight(true); tableProperties(table); panel1.add(table); panel1.setLayout(new BoxLayout(panel1, BoxLayout.Y_AXIS)); return panel1; } public void tableProperties(JTable table) { table.setAutoResizeMode(JTable.AUTO_RESIZE_ALL_COLUMNS); table.repaint(); table.revalidate(); } } } Any recommendations what I am doing wrong?

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  • Sorting an observable collection with linq

    - by zachary
    I have an observable collection and I sort it using linq. Everything is great, but the problem I have is how do I sort the actual observable collection? Instead I just end up with some IEnumerable thing and I end up clearing the collection and adding the stuff back in. This can't be good for performance. Does anyone know of a better way to do this?

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  • How would you solve this graph theory handshake problem in python?

    - by Zachary Burt
    I graduated college last year with a degree in Psychology, but I also took a lot of math for fun. I recently got the book "Introductory Graph Theory" by Gary Chartrand to brush up on my math and have some fun. Here is an exercise from the book that I'm finding particularly befuddling: Suppose you and your husband attended a party with three other married couples. Several handshakes took place. No one shook hands with himself (or herself) or with his (or her) spouse, and no one shook hands with the same person more than once. After all the handshaking was completed, suppose you asked each person, including your husband, how many hands he or she had shaken. Each person gave a different answer. a) How many hands did you shake? b) How many hands did your husband shake? Now, I've been reasoning about this for a while, and trying to draw sample graphs that could illustrate a solution, but I'm coming up empty-handed. My logic is this: there are 8 different vertices in the graph, and 7 of them have different degrees. The values for the degrees must therefore be 0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, and x. The # of degrees for one married couple is (0, 6). Since all graphs have an even number of odd vertices, x must be either 5, 3, or 1. What's your solution to this problem? And, if you could solve it in python, how would you do it? (python is fun.) Cheers.

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  • How would you solve this graph theory handshake problem in python?

    - by Zachary Burt
    I graduated college last year with a degree in Psychology, but I also took a lot of math for fun. I recently got the book "Introductory Graph Theory" by Gary Chartrand to brush up on my math and have some fun. Here is an exercise from the book that I'm finding particularly befuddling: Suppose you and your husband attended a party with three other married couples. Several handshakes took place. No one shook hands with himself (or herself) or with his (or her) spouse, and no one shook hands with the same person more than once. After all the handshaking was completed, suppose you asked each person, including your husband, how many hands he or she had shaken. Each person gave a different answer. a) How many hands did you shake? b) How many hands did your husband shake? Now, I've been reasoning about this for a while, and trying to draw sample graphs that could illustrate a solution, but I'm coming up empty-handed. My logic is this: there are 8 different vertices in the graph, and 7 of them have different degrees. The values for the degrees must therefore be 0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, and x. The # of degrees for one married couple is (0, 6). Since all graphs have an even number of odd vertices, x must be either 5, 3, or 1. What's your solution to this problem? And, if you could solve it in python, how would you do it? (python is fun.) Cheers.

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  • Common lisp error: "should be lambda expression"

    - by Zachary
    I just started learning Common Lisp a few days ago, and I'm trying to build a function that inserts a number into a tree. I'm getting an error, * - SYSTEM::%EXPAND-FORM: (CONS NIL LST) should be a lambda expression From googling around, it seems like this happens when you have too many sets of parenthesis, but after looking at this for an hour or so and changing things around, I can't figure out where I could be doing this. This is the code where it's happening: (defun insert (lst probe) (cond ((null lst) (cons probe lst)) ((equal (length lst) 1) (if (<= probe (first lst)) (cons probe lst) (append lst (list probe)))) ((equal (length lst) 2) ((cons nil lst) (append lst nil) (insertat nil lst 3) (cond ((<= probe (second lst)) (insert (first lst) probe)) ((> probe (fourth lst)) (insert (fifth lst) probe)) (t (insert (third lst) probe))))))) I'm pretty sure it's occurring after the ((equal (length lst) 2), where the idea is to insert an empty list into the existing list, then append an empty list onto the end, then insert an empty list into the middle.

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  • Using Taylor Series to Avoid Loss of Precision

    - by Zachary
    I'm trying to use Taylor series to develop a numerically sound algorithm for solving a function. I've been at it for quite a while, but haven't had any luck yet. I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong. The function is f(x)=1 + x - sin(x)/ln(1+x) x~0 Also: why does loss of precision even occur in this function? when x is close to zero, sin(x)/ln(1+x) isn't even close to being the same number as x. I don't see where significance is even being lost. In order to solve this, I believe that I will need to use the Taylor expansions for sin(x) and ln(1+x), which are x - x^3/3! + x^5/5! - x^7/7! + ... and x - x^2/2 + x^3/3 - x^4/4 + ... respectfully. I have attempted to use like denominators to combine the x and sin(x)/ln(1+x) components, and even to combine all three, but nothing seems to work out correctly in the end. Any help is appreciated.

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  • Using JSON input in Ruby method on Rails

    - by Zachary
    I am using jQuery to make an AJAX call to a ruby method in my controller. The javascript looks something like this: var latLongJSON = { "address": [ {"lat" : 50, "long" : 50} ] }; var returnedAddresses; $.ajax({ type: "GET", data: latLongJSON, url: "map/getaddresses", success: function(data) { returnedAddresses = JSON.parse(data); } }); Then in my 'getaddresses' method, my parameter coming through looks like: Parameters: {"address"=>"[object Object]"} I'm not sure what to do with this. I'm fairly new to Ruby, and I'm not sure if I need to convert this to something else, or what. Ideally I want to be able to pass in multiple sets of lat/long in the 'address' array, then be able to iterate over those in my Ruby code.

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  • GNU Smalltalk API?

    - by Zachary
    I have recently been learning Smalltalk, mainly by going through the tutorial at gnu.org. While it has been really helpful and I have learned a lot, I would really like an extensive smalltalk API where I could view all of the built in objects and which messages they can receive, and what they will do with those messages. The manual has a list of all of the built in objects, but doesn't really explain anything about them. Some are obvious, like an Array, but I still don't know what all the messages are an Array understands. There is a link to a 'class reference' here, which is generated by Smalltalk, but the link is broken. I was wondering if anyone knows of something like this hosted elsewhere, or could point me towards a similar resource.

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  • Building error in Eclipse with build.xml

    - by Zachary
    I am working on a Java project with Eclipse. This project requires a second project (not mine), named sams in its build-path. The sams is provided with a build.xml file and it should generate some code using Apache CXF when building it. When I use Apache ANT on Eclipse and run the cxf.generated command from its build file I get the following error: Buildfile: C:\Docs\ZacRocha\Desktop\sams\build.xml cxf.generated: [echo] Generating code using Apache CXF wsdl2java... [java] 16-Jun-2010 16:04:08 org.apache.cxf.binding.corba.CorbaConduit prepare [java] SEVERE: Could not resolve target object [java] 16-Jun-2010 16:04:08 org.apache.cxf.binding.corba.CorbaConduit prepare [java] SEVERE: Could not resolve target object [java] WSDLToJava Error: org.apache.cxf.wsdl11.WSDLRuntimeException: Fail to create wsdl definition from : file:/C:/Docs/ZacRocha/Desktop/sams/$%7barchivesoftware.wsdl%7d [java] Caused by : WSDLException: faultCode=PARSER_ERROR: Problem parsing 'file:/C:/Docs/ZacRocha/Desktop/sams/$%7barchivesoftware.wsdl%7d'.: java.io.FileNotFoundException: C:\Docs\ZacRocha\Desktop\sams\${archivesoftware.wsdl} (The system cannot find the file specified) [java] 16-Jun-2010 16:04:10 org.apache.cxf.binding.corba.CorbaConduit prepare [java] SEVERE: Could not resolve target object [java] 16-Jun-2010 16:04:10 org.apache.cxf.binding.corba.CorbaConduit prepare [java] SEVERE: Could not resolve target object [java] WSDLToJava Error: org.apache.cxf.wsdl11.WSDLRuntimeException: Fail to create wsdl definition from : file:/C:/Docs/ZacRocha/Desktop/sams/$%7barchivehardware.wsdl%7d [java] Caused by : WSDLException: faultCode=PARSER_ERROR: Problem parsing 'file:/C:/Docs/ZacRocha/Desktop/sams/$%7barchivehardware.wsdl%7d'.: java.io.FileNotFoundException: C:\Docs\ZacRocha\Desktop\sams\${archivehardware.wsdl} (The system cannot find the file specified) BUILD SUCCESSFUL Total time: 4 seconds I am used to program on Eclipse and I know very little about building with Apache ANT. Can someone tell me where exactly the problem may be? Thanks in advance!

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  • Using JSON with jRails

    - by Zachary
    I am currently trying to use AJAX in my application via jRails. I am trying to return a JSON object from my controller, and then parse it in my Javascript. I am using json2.js to do the parsing. Here is the code I currently have: function getSomething() { $.ajax({ type: "GET", url: "map/testjson", success: function(data) { var myData = JSON.parse(data[0]); window.alert(myData.login); } }); } and in the controller: class Map::MapController < ApplicationController def index end def testjson @message = User.find(:all) ActiveRecord::Base.include_root_in_json = false respond_to do |w| w.json { render :json => @message.to_json } end end end The window.alert simply says 'undefined' (without tics). However, if I change the javascript to window.alert(data) (the raw object returned by the controller) I get: [{"salt":"aSalt","name":"", "created_at":"2010-03-15T02:34:25Z","remember_token_expires_at": null,"crypted_password":"aPassword", "updated_at":"2010-03-15T02:34:25Z","id":1,"remember_token":null, "login":"zgwrig2","email":"[email protected]"}] This looks like an array of size 1, if I'm looking at it correctly, but I have tried just about every combination of JSON.parse on the data object that I can think of, and nothing seems to work. Any ideas on what I'm doing wrong here?

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  • Automatically support new changes with Python.

    - by Zachary Brown
    I was working on a program,that I need to support new additions. Hmmm. Let me give you some background on the program. It is an educational software program that has quizzes for the user to take, just to gain odd knowledge. Now, It currently supports 6 subjects, all organized with directores on the HDD ( i.e. the Science directory is called science. ) and the way you launch the subject to see what quizzes you have to take is by pushing a button on the home screen. This sort of thing prevents easy subject additions. I want to be able to add a subject later on without having to recode the home screen and re organize all the buttons. I would use a Listbox and os.listdir(...), but I was kind of wanting something prettier than a Listbox. I am using Tkinter on Windows. The Python version I am using is 2.6 Is there a "fancy" listbox sort of thing that can be styled to work with the background?

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  • Visual studio has gone crazy trying to create files

    - by zachary
    I downloaded Process Monitor and began monitoring my project directory that I am writing code in. I see endless entries every couple seconds of: Operation: Create File C:\Inetpub\wwwroot\csharp C:\Inetpub\wwwroot\code C:\Inetpub\wwwroot\web and so on for the rest of the templates Then it says the result is PATH NOT FOUND. What is happening? Has Visual Studio GONE CRAZY?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

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  • Swt combobox name/key pair

    - by zachary
    I want to have the text say one thing, but have the value say another Text Key But it only takes a string for adding items. How do Java programmers typically store text/id pairs in comboboxes

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  • Handling xml files with different structures and different names

    - by zachary
    I have a method and I want different users to pass me xml files. These files will have different names for the elements I am looking for and the elements I am looking for maybe at different structures. My first impression was that we should just tell them to pass in the xml in a standard format. However this is how they have their data and they insist that it is much easier if they don't have to convert it. What can I do to take in data of all types? Have them pass in a dictionary? number = mydata/numbers What is the easiest way for them to define their data to me without actually changing it? sample1 <numbers> 15 </numbers> sample2 <mydata> <mynumbers> 15 </mynumbers> </mydata>

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  • Free internet radio station server software with remote broadcasting?

    - by Zachary Brown
    I am in the process of creating an internet radio station, but the two djs I have for it are not able to be in one place. I need for them to be able to login to a web based broadcasting session that still has full functionality. They need to be able to broadcast thier live shows with talk and music. The music will be stroed on the server. I have checked out the Broadwave media streaming server from NCH, but ti does not have the ability to login as a dj from a remote computer. I don't have any money for this, so I need it to be free. If this is not possible, I need it to be cheap!

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  • Allow access to my server.

    - by Zachary Brown
    I have a server, did some of the programming myself. It ison my home network, but I need to be able to access it from anywhere over the internet. I have done the port forwarding like I am supposed to, but I still cant get to it from an outside computer. It just displays Internet Explorer cannot display the webpage. I don't know what else to do. I am on a Linksys WRT54G v8 router running ddWRT v24 micro firmware.

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  • Defining Light Coordinates

    - by Zachary
    I took a Computer Graphics exam a couple of days ago which had extra credit question like the following: A light can be defined in one of two ways. It can be defined in world coordinates, e.g. a street light, or in the viewer (eye coordinates), e.g., a head-lamp worn by a miner. In either case the viewpoint can freely change. Describe how the light should be transformed different in these two cases. Since I won't get to see the results of this until after spring break, I thought I would ask here. It seems like the analogies being used are misleading - could you not define a light source that is located at the viewers eye in world coordinates just as well as you could in eye coordinates? I've been doing some research on how OpenGL handles light, and it seems as though it always uses eye coordinates - the ModelView matrix would be applied to any light in world coordinates. In that case the answer may just be that you would have to transform light defined in world coordinates into eye coordinates using something like the ModelView matrix, while light defined in eye coordinates would only need to be transformed by the projection matrix. Then again I could be totally under thinking (or over thinking this). Another thought I had is that it determines which way you render shadows, but that has more to do with the location of the light and its type (point, directional, emission, etc) than what coordinates it is represented in. Any ideas?

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