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  • reporting tool/viewer for large datasets

    - by FrustratedWithFormsDesigner
    I have a data processing system that generates very large reports on the data it processes. By "large" I mean that a "small" execution of this system produces about 30 MB of reporting data when dumped into a CSV file and a large dataset is about 130-150 MB (I'm sure someone out there has a bigger idea of "large" but that's not the point... ;) Excel has the ideal interface for the report consumers in the form of its Data Lists: users can filter and segment the data on-the-fly to see the specific details that they are interested in - they can also add notes and markup to the reports, create charts, graphs, etc... They know how to do all this and it's much easier to let them do it if we just give them the data. Excel was great for the small test datasets, but it cannot handle these large ones. Does anyone know of a tool that can provide a similar interface as Excel data lists, but that can handle much larger files? The next tool I tried was MS Access, and found that the Access file bloats hugely (30 MB input file leads to about 70 MB Access file, and when I open the file, run a report and close it the file's at 120-150 MB!), the import process is slow and very manual (currently, the CSV files are created by the same plsql script that runs the main process so there's next to no intervention on my part). I also tried an Access database with linked tables to the database tables that store the report data and that was many times slower (for some reason, sqlplus could query and generate the report file in a minute or soe while Access would take anywhere from 2-5 minutes for the same data) (If it helps, the data processing system is written in PL/SQL and runs on Oracle 10g.)

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  • How do you delete a pointer without deleting the data the pointer points to?

    - by Faken
    I have a pointer that points to an array and another pointer referencing the same array. How do i delete any one of those pointers without killing the array such that the second undeleted pointer still works? for example: int* pointer1 = new int [1000]; int* pointer2; pointer2 = pointer1; Now i want to get rid of pointer1, how would i do it such that i can continue to access the array normaly through pointer2?

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  • How select data from SQLite table where date = week of year?

    - by vovaxo
    I have table expense: "create table " + Expense.TABLE_NAME + "(" + Expense.ID + " integer primary key autoincrement not null, " + Expense.CATEGORY_ID + " integer, " + Expense.ITEM + " text, " + Expense.PRICE + " real, " + Expense.DATE + " date, " + Expense.TIME + " time);"; And I want to select Expense.PRICE where Expense.DATE = current day/week/month. I tried to do this cursor = mDB.rawQuery("select " + Expense.PRICE + " where " + " (strftime('%W', " + Expense.DATE + "))" + "=" + week, null); where week is week = calendar.get(Calendar.WEEK_OF_YEAR); but it gives an error in cursor: 09-15 09:32:02.647: E/AndroidRuntime(18939): Caused by: java.lang.NullPointerException 09-15 09:32:02.647: E/AndroidRuntime(18939): at com.pllug.summercamp.expensemanager.DataAdapter.getPrice(DataAdapter.java:242)

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  • Why is the Objective-C Boolean data type defined as a signed char?

    - by EddieCatflap
    Something that has piqued my interest is Objective-C's BOOL type definition. Why is it defined as a signed char (which could cause unexpected behaviour if a value greater than 1 byte in length is assigned to it) rather than as an int, as C does (much less margin for error: a zero value is false, a non-zero value is true)? The only reason I can think of is the Objective-C designers micro-optimising storage because the char will use less memory than the int. Please can someone enlighten me?

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  • Runtime Error 1004 using Select with several workbooks

    - by Johaen
    I have an Excel workbook which pulls out data from two other workbooks. Since the data changes hourly there is the possibility that this macro is used more than one time a day for the same data. So I just want to select all previous data to this date period and want to delete them. Later on the data will be copied in anyway. But as soon as I want to use WBSH.Range(Cells(j, "A"), Cells(lastRow - 1, "M")).Select the code stopes with Error 1004 Application-defined or object-defined error. Followed just a snippet of the code with the relevant part. What is wrong here? 'Set source workbook Dim currentWb As Workbook Set currentWb = ThisWorkbook Set WBSH = currentWb.Sheets("Tracking") 'Query which data from the tracking files shoud get pulled out to the file CheckDate = Application.InputBox(("From which date you want to get data?" & vbCrLf & "Format: yyyy/mm/dd "), "Tracking data", Format(Date - 1, "yyyy/mm/dd")) 'states the last entry which is done ; know where to start ; currentWb File With currentWb.Sheets("Tracking") lastRow = .Range("D" & .Rows.Count).End(xlUp).Row lastRow = lastRow + 1 End With 'just last 250 entries get checked since not so many entries are made in one week j = lastRow - 250 'Check if there is already data to the look up date in the analyses sheet and if so deletes these records Do j = j + 1 'Exit Sub if there is no data to compare to prevent overflow If WBSH.Cells(j + 1, "C").Value = "" Then Exit Do End If Loop While WBSH.Cells(j, "C").Value < CheckDate If j <> lastRow - 1 Then 'WBSH.Range(Cells(j, "A"), Cells(lastRow - 1, "M")).Select 'Selection.ClearContents End If Thank you!

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  • WM_SYSCOMMAND oddities

    - by Andreas Rejbrand
    An application recieves the WM_SYSCOMMAND message when the user selects a menu item command on the system menu, and so wParam can be SC_CLOSE, SC_CONTEXTHELP, SC_MAXIMIZE, SC_MINIMIZE, SC_RESTORE etc. That's logical. But one can also send the WM_SYSCOMMAND message to send commands to the Windows Shell. For instance, one can display the start menu (SC_TASKLIST), activate the screen saver (SC_SCREENSAVE), and turn off the monitor (SC_MONITORPOWER). This does not make sense, does it? What does this have to do with the application's system menu? This is more of a "system command", i.e. more of a completely other interpretation of the name "WM_SYSCOMMAND" of the message. It's like the message is used to send command requests to the system. Why is this message used for two seemingly entirely different things, and what thing does the name "SYSCOMMAND" refer to (command on the system menu, or command of the operating system)?

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  • Simplest LINQ in C# troubleshooting.

    - by Jay
    I'm trying to learn a bit of LINQ but I'm having compile issues right off the bat. Is there any specific reason why this won't work? using System; using System.Collections.Generic; using System.Linq; using System.Text; namespace HelloLINQ { class HelloLINQ { public static void Main() { Example1(); } public static void Example1() { var numbers = new int[] { 1, 5, 3, 7, 3, 8, 9, 3, 6, 6, 2 }; var under5 = from n in numbers select n; foreach (var n in under5) { Console.WriteLine(n); } } } } The error is: Could not find an implementation of the query pattern for source type 'int[]'. 'Select' not found. Are you missing a reference to 'System.Core.dll' or a using directive for 'System.Linq'?

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  • How to read data between two html tags as text.

    - by vijay.shad
    Hi, I am working on a project which needs to extract text form a predefined div tag. My requirement is to send the content in the target div in a email body. I have to use javascript or php for this task. The Process : When a given link will be clicked; a javascript function will trigger and read that target div. The content of the div will be then submitted to server in dynamic form. What options I have to get this task done? Thanks.

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  • Pattern for version-specific implementations of a Java class

    - by Mike Monkiewicz
    So here's my conundrum. I am programming a tool that needs to work on old versions of our application. I have the code to the application, but can not alter any of the classes. To pull information out of our database, I have a DTO of sorts that is populated by Hibernate. It consumes a data object for version 1.0 of our app, cleverly named DataObject. Below is the DTO class. public class MyDTO { private MyWrapperClass wrapper; public MyDTO(DataObject data) { wrapper = new MyWrapperClass(data); } } The DTO is instantiated through a Hibernate query as follows: select new com.foo.bar.MyDTO(t1.data) from mytable t1 Now, a little logic is needed on top of the data object, so I made a wrapper class for it. Note the DTO stores an instance of the wrapper class, not the original data object. public class MyWrapperClass { private DataObject data; public MyWrapperClass(DataObject data) { this.data = data; } public String doSomethingImportant() { ... version-specific logic ... } } This works well until I need to work on version 2.0 of our application. Now DataObject in the two versions are very similar, but not the same. This resulted in different sub classes of MyWrapperClass, which implement their own version-specific doSomethingImportant(). Still doing okay. But how does myDTO instantiate the appropriate version-specific MyWrapperClass? Hibernate is in turn instantiating MyDTO, so it's not like I can @Autowire a dependency in Spring. I would love to reuse MyDTO (and my dozens of other DTOs) for both versions of the tool, without having to duplicate the class. Don't repeat yourself, and all that. I'm sure there's a very simple pattern I'm missing that would help this. Any suggestions?

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  • c#: sms appears to have been sent, but stuck in phone outbox

    - by I__
    i wrote code to send an SMS using my gsm phone which is attached to the computer through com port. the code is below. the problem is i do see that it is in the outbox of the phone and it actually appears to have been sent, but when i contact the recipient they say that i have not received the message. i test the phone, and i create and send a message using only the phone and it works perfectly, however when i do this with my code, it APPEARS to have been sent, and i am getting all the correct AT COMMAND responses from the phone, but the message is actually NOT sent. here is the code: using System; using System.Collections.Generic; using System.ComponentModel; using System.Data; using System.Drawing; using System.Linq; using System.Text; using System.Windows.Forms; using System.Threading; using System.IO.Ports; namespace WindowsFormsApplication1 { public partial class Form1 : Form { SerialPort serialPort1; int m_iTxtMsgState = 0; const int NUM_MESSAGE_STATES = 4; const string RESERVED_COM_1 = "COM1"; const string RESERVED_COM_4 = "COM4"; public Form1() { InitializeComponent(); this.Closing += new CancelEventHandler(Form1_Closing); } private void Form1_Load(object sender, EventArgs e) { serialPort1 = new SerialPort(GetUSBComPort()); if (serialPort1.IsOpen) { serialPort1.Close(); } serialPort1.Open(); //ThreadStart myThreadDelegate = new ThreadStart(ReceiveAndOutput); //Thread myThread = new Thread(myThreadDelegate); //myThread.Start(); this.serialPort1.DataReceived += new SerialDataReceivedEventHandler(sp_DataReceived); } private void Form1_Closing(object sender, System.ComponentModel.CancelEventArgs e) { serialPort1.Close(); } private void SendLine(string sLine) { serialPort1.Write(sLine); sLine = sLine.Replace("\u001A", ""); consoleOut.Text += sLine; } public void DoWork() { ProcessMessageState(); } public void ProcessMessageState() { switch (m_iTxtMsgState) { case 0: m_iTxtMsgState = 1; SendLine("AT\r\n"); //NOTE: SendLine must be the last thing called in all of these! break; case 1: m_iTxtMsgState = 2; SendLine("AT+CMGF=1\r\n"); break; case 2: m_iTxtMsgState = 3; SendLine("AT+CMGW=" + Convert.ToChar(34) + "+9737387467" + Convert.ToChar(34) + "\r\n"); break; case 3: m_iTxtMsgState = 4; SendLine("A simple demo of SMS text messaging." + Convert.ToChar(26)); break; case 4: m_iTxtMsgState = 5; break; case 5: m_iTxtMsgState = NUM_MESSAGE_STATES; break; } } private string GetStoredSMSID() { return null; } /* //i dont think this part does anything private void serialPort1_DataReceived_1(object sender, System.IO.Ports.SerialDataReceivedEventArgs e) { string response = serialPort1.ReadLine(); this.BeginInvoke(new MethodInvoker(() => textBox1.AppendText(response + "\r\n"))); } */ void sp_DataReceived(object sender, SerialDataReceivedEventArgs e) { try { Thread.Sleep(500); char[] msg; msg = new char[613]; int iNumToRead = serialPort1.BytesToRead; serialPort1.Read(msg, 0, iNumToRead); string response = new string(msg); this.BeginInvoke(new MethodInvoker(() => textBox1.AppendText(response + "\r\n"))); serialPort1.DiscardInBuffer(); if (m_iTxtMsgState == 4) { int pos_cmgw = response.IndexOf("+CMGW:"); string cmgw_num = response.Substring(pos_cmgw + 7, 4); SendLine("AT+CMSS=" + cmgw_num + "\r\n"); //stop listening to messages received } if (m_iTxtMsgState < NUM_MESSAGE_STATES) { ProcessMessageState(); } } catch { } } private void button1_Click(object sender, EventArgs e) { m_iTxtMsgState = 0; DoWork(); } private void button2_Click(object sender, EventArgs e) { string[] sPorts = SerialPort.GetPortNames(); foreach (string port in sPorts) { consoleOut.Text += port + "\r\n"; } } private string GetUSBComPort() { string[] sPorts = SerialPort.GetPortNames(); foreach (string port in sPorts) { if (port != RESERVED_COM_1 && port != RESERVED_COM_4) { return port; } } return null; } }

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  • Flex + PHP + ValueObjects

    - by Tempname
    I have a php/flex value object that I am using to transmit data to/from in my application. Everything works great php-flex, but I am having an issue with flex-php. In my MergeTemplateService.php service I have the following code. This is the method that flex hits directly: function updateTemplate($valueObject){ $object = DAOFactory::getMergeTemplateDAO()->update($valueObject); return $object; } I am passing a value object that from flex looks like this: (com.rottmanj.vo::MergeTemplateVO)#0 communityID = 0 creationDate = (null) enterpriseID = 0 lastModifyDate = (null) templateID = 2 templateName = "My New Test Template" userID = 0 The issue I am having is that my updateTemplate method sees the value object as an array and not an object. In my amfphp globals.php I have set my voPath as: $voPath = "services/class/dto/"; Any help with this is greatly appreciated Here are my two value objects: AS3 VO: package com.rottmanj.vo { [RemoteClass(alias="MergeTemplate")] public class MergeTemplateVO { public var templateID:int; public var templateName:String; public var communityID:int; public var enterpriseID:int; public var userID:int; public var creationDate:String; public var lastModifyDate:String public function MergeTemplateVO(data:Object = null):void { if(data != null) { templateID = data.templateID; templateName = data.templateName; communityID = data.communityID; enterpriseID = data.enterpriseID; userID = data.userID; creationDate = data.creationDate; lastModifyDate = data.lastModifyDate; } } } } PHPVO: <?php class MergeTemplate{ var $templateID; var $templateName; var $communityID; var $enterpriseID; var $userID; var $creationDate; var $lastModifyDate; var $_explictType = 'MergeTemplate'; } ?>

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  • Trying to edit an entity with data from dropdowns in MVC...

    - by user598352
    Hello! I'm having trouble getting my head around sending multiple models to a view in mvc. My problem is the following. Using EF4 I have a table with attributes organised by category. Couldn't post an image :-( [Have a table called attributes (AttributeTitle, AttributeName, CategoryID) connected to a table called Category (CategoryTitle).] What I want to do is be able to edit an attribute entity and have a dropdown of categories to choose from. I tried to make a custom viewmodel public class AttributeViewModel { public AttributeViewModel() { } public Attribute Attribute { get; set; } public IQueryable<Category> AllCategories { get; set; } } But it just ended up being a mess. <div class="editor-field"> <%: Html.DropDownList("Category", new SelectList((IEnumerable)Model.AllCategories, "CategoryID", "CategoryName")) %> </div> I was getting it back to the controller... [HttpPost] public ActionResult Edit(int AttributeID, FormCollection formcollection) { var _attribute = ProfileDB.GetAttribute(AttributeID); int _selcategory = Convert.ToInt32(formcollection["Category"]); _attribute.CategoryID = (int)_selcategory; try { UpdateModel(_attribute); (<---Error here) ProfileDB.SaveChanges(); return RedirectToAction("Index"); } catch (Exception e) { return View(_attribute); } } I've debugged the code and my _attribute looks correct and _attribute.CategoryID = (int)_selcategory updates the model, but then I get the error. Somewhere here I thought that there should be a cleaner way to do this, and that if I could only send two models to the view instead of having to make a custom viewmodel. To sum it up: I want to edit my attribute and have a dropdown of all of the available categories. Any help much appreciated!

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  • How many databases to support eCommerce?

    - by Terry Lorber
    I have a system with two databases, one that the customer-facing website uses, the second that is used by the "backroom" order-fulfillment system. I've been asked to run queries from the website to the backroom system. I'd rather not, it seems risky to allow web-based request to run unheeded on the internal system. Additionally, this means opening up routing in the firewall to allow external connections to the internal server. What's the best practice for eCommerce? Run the entire company off of one database? Or individual databases for each system, and middleware to connect them? Sometimes it might be necessary for the web application to pull date from the internal system, but not based on an HTTP request from the internet. I'm sure the best answer is "it depends!" So, if people have a rule of thumb for when to use middleware and when not to, I'd like to here it.

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  • redirect gridview selected row data to two different pages on clicking on two different select button asp.net?

    - by user559800
    Ihave a gridview item template field namely Status as mentioned above ... i want when user click on hold button of particular row then the record from the particular row is transfered to another page. ... means.... if i click on the hold button of 1st row of gridview then seats=35 and booking closed =08:00:00 PM willbe trasferred to Me.Response.Redirect("Select_seats.aspx?s_no=" & label22.Text.ToString & "&" & "journey=" & label6.Text & "&" & "seater=" & label4.Text & "&" & "sleeper=" & label2.Text & "&" & "service=" & lab5.Text.ToString) .. and if i click on the manage button of same row then the record of that row will be transferred to Me.Response.Redirect("Select_nfo.aspx?s_no=" & label22.Text.ToString & "&" & "journey=" & label6.Text & "&" & "seater=" & label4.Text & "&" & "sleeper=" & label2.Text & "&" & "service=" & lab5.Text.ToString)

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  • Why can't I rename a data frame column inside a list?

    - by Moreno Garcia
    I would like to rename some columns from CPU_Usage to the process name before I merge the dataframes in order to make it more legible. names(byProcess[[1]]) # [1] "Time" "CPU_Usage" names(byProcess[1]) # [1] "CcmExec_3344" names(byProcess[[1]][2]) <- names(byProcess[1]) names(byProcess[[1]][2]) # [1] "CPU_Usage" names(byProcess[[1]][2]) <- 'test' names(byProcess[[1]][2]) # [1] "CPU_Usage" lapply(byProcess, names) # $CcmExec_3344 # [1] "Time" "CPU_Usage" # # ... (removed several entries to make it more readable) # # $wrapper_1604 # [1] "Time" "CPU_Usage"

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  • There has to be an easier way.. pulling data from mysql

    - by Daniel Hunter
    I need to pull 3 values from a table and assign each one to a variable each value is based on to columns, a type and an id $ht_live_query = mysql_query("SELECT htcode FROM coupon WHERE pid='$pid' AND type='L'"); $ht_live_result = mysql_fetch_array($ht_live_query); $htCODE_Live = $ht_live_result['htcode']; You can see that I am assigning the desired value to the variable $htL $ht_General_query = mysql_query("SELECT htcode FROM coupon WHERE pid='$pid' AND type='G'"); $ht_General_result = mysql_fetch_array($ht_General_query); $htCODE_General = $ht_General_result['htcode']; $ht_Reward_query = mysql_query("SELECT htcode FROM coupon WHERE pid='$pid' AND type='R'"); $ht_Reward_result = mysql_fetch_array($ht_Reward_query); $htCODE_Reward = $ht_Reward_result ['htcode']; I know I am doing this the hard way but can not figure out how to do the foreach or while loop to attain the desired results.

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  • StringIndexOutOfBoundsException: String index out of range 0

    - by Evan F
    I'm trying to write a program to take the first letter of the user input to generate a username. I'm trying to write it so that if the user leaves the input blank, then the letter that would otherwise be taken to generate the username defaults to the letter 'z'. Here is my full code: import java.util.Scanner; /** UsernameGenerator.java Generates a username based on the users inputs. @author: Evan Fravert */ public class UsernameGenerator { /** * Generates a username based on the users inputs. *@param args command line argument */ public static void main(String[] args) { // abcde String first; String middle; String last; String password1; String password2; int randomNum; randomNum = (int) (Math.random() * 1000) + 100; Scanner userInput = new Scanner(System.in); System.out.println("Please enter your first name:"); first = userInput.nextLine(); String firstLower = first.toLowerCase(); System.out.println("Please enter your middle name:"); middle = userInput.nextLine(); String middleLower = middle.toLowerCase(); System.out.println("Please enter your last name:"); last = userInput.nextLine(); int lastEnd = last.length()-1; String lastLower = last.toLowerCase(); System.out.println("Please enter your password:"); password1 = userInput.nextLine(); System.out.println("Please enter your password again:"); password2 = userInput.nextLine(); char firstLetter = firstLower.charAt(0); char middleLetter = middleLower.charAt(0); char lastLetter = lastLower.charAt(0); char lastLast = lastLower.charAt(lastEnd); if first.length() == 0) { firstLetter = 'z'; } else { firstLetter = firstLower.charAt(0); } System.out.println("Your username is " + firstLetter + "" + middleLetter + "" + lastLetter + "" + "" + lastLast + "" + randomNum); System.out.println("Your password is " + password1); System.out.println("Welcome " + first + " " + middle + " " + last + "!"); } }

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  • Using SSIS, how do you read a datetime field into a variable that is of Data Type string?

    - by Mark Kadlec
    This one has bugged me for the longest time and a great question to ask the Stackoverflow users I think. I have a rather large SSIS flow that uses a string variable to store the datetime. I would now like to dynamically read the datetime value from the database, but how would you construct the SSIS to do this? My first obvious thought would be to simply execute a SQL task to get the datetime and store it in the variable, but got the "differs from the current variable type" error. Is there a simple way to convert the database datetime into a String variable? Any help from the community would be appreciated,

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  • how to force ejb3 to reload value from data base and not use those of the context

    - by Kohan95
    Hello here I have a big problem that I hope to find help here I have two entities @Entity @Inheritance(strategy=InheritanceType.JOINED) @DiscriminatorColumn(name="Role", discriminatorType=DiscriminatorType.STRING) public class Utilisateur implements Serializable { private static final long serialVersionUID = 1L; @Id @GeneratedValue(strategy = GenerationType.IDENTITY) @Column(name="id") private Long id; @Column(name="nom",nullable=false) private String nom; @Column(name="Role",nullable=false, insertable=false) private String Role ; //... } @Entity @Table(name="ResCom") @DiscriminatorValue("ResCom") public class ResCom extends Utilisateur { /... } the first thing I do ResCom rsCom= new ResCom(nom,prenom, email,civilite, SysQl.crypePasse(pass)); gr.create(rsCom); I check my database I see that property is ResCom insert but when I check the value of role I get null Utilisateur tets= gr.findByEmail(email); message=tets.getEmail()+" and Role :"+tets.getRole()+""; but in my bass it ResCom !!!!! the problem disappears when I deploy the project again I hope you have a solution And thank you in advance sorry for my English

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  • Using xsl param (if exists) to replcae attribute value

    - by Assaf
    I would like an xsl that replaces the value attribute of the data elements only if the relevant param names are passed. Input <applicationVariables applicationServer="tomcat"> <data name="HOST" value="localhost"/> <data name="PORT" value="8080"/> <data name="SIZE" value="1000"/> </applicationVariables> So for example if passing in a param HOST1=myHost and PORT=9080 the output should be: <applicationVariables applicationServer="tomcat"> <data name="HOST" value="myHost"/> <data name="PORT" value="9080"/> <data name="SIZE" value="1000"/> </applicationVariables> Note that HOST and PORT where replaced but SIZE was not replaced because there was no parameter with name SIZE Since the list of data elements is long (and may change), i would like a generic way of doing this with xsl

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  • String split operations in C# .

    - by Indigo Praveen
    Hi All, I have a string say string s ="C:\\Data" , I have an array which contains some strings containg "C:\Data" in the beginning i.e. string[] arr = new {"C:\\Data\abc.xml","C:\\Data\Test\hello.cs"};. I have to remove the string "C:\Data" from each entry and have to combine it with another string say string fixed = "D:\\Data". What is the best way to do it, please help as I am a new programmer in C#.

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  • Is there a better way to change user password in cakephp using Auth?

    - by sipiatti
    Hi, I am learning cakephp by myself. I tried to create a user controller with a changepassword function. It works, but I am not sure if this is the best way, and I could not googled up useful tutorials on this. Here is my code: class UsersController extends AppController { var $name = 'Users'; function login() { } function logout() { $this->redirect($this->Auth->logout()); } function changepassword() { $session=$this->Session->read(); $id=$session['Auth']['User']['id']; $user=$this->User->find('first',array('conditions' => array('id' => $id))); $this->set('user',$user); if (!empty($this->data)) { if ($this->Auth->password($this->data['User']['password'])==$user['User']['password']) { if ($this->data['User']['passwordn']==$this->data['User']['password2']) { // Passwords match, continue processing $data=$this->data; $this->data=$user; $this->data['User']['password']=$this->Auth->password($data['User']['passwordn']); $this->User->id=$id; $this->User->save($this->data); $this->Session->setFlash('Password changed.'); $this->redirect(array('controller'=>'Toners','action' => 'index')); } else { $this->Session->setFlash('New passwords differ.'); } } else { $this->Session->setFlash('Typed passwords did not match.'); } } } } password is the old password, passwordn is the new one, password2 is the new one retyped. Is there any other, more coomon way to do it in cake?

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