Hi I want to bind a lists position to its own height in XAML. So its lower left corner always will be at 0.0 of the canvas. I'm using elementBinding to get the ActualHeight and a converter to invert the property. But the height sent to the converter is 0. How do I solve this or am I going at this the wrong way? <Canvas x:Name="DisplaySurface"> <ListBox x:Name="MenuList" Visibility="Visible" Canvas.Top="{Binding ElementName=MenuList, Path=ActualHeight, Converter={StaticResource LamdaConv}, ConverterParameter='val=>-val'}"> <ListBoxItem Content="item 1" /> <ListBoxItem Content="item 2" /> <ListBoxItem Content="item 3" /> <ListBoxItem Content="item 4" /> <ListBoxItem Content="item 5" /> <ListBoxItem Content="item 6" /> </ListBox> </Canvas> -Qanik