Hi i am learning java and php i have some projects from uni.(Gui,s in java with mysql and a web application in php with mysql ++ more things like this.) i have started learning mvc struts spring and i also lerning php +zend +++++ more stuff etc....you can't learn everything!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I would like to ask how can i find a job as a programmer-software eng because i have send my cv in many companys but all of them said me that i need work expirience. How All of you started your programming expirience. Did you make some projects and send them did you you have somebody that help you ...??? i am totaly alone i do everything by my self. can anyone answer this?everybody starts from somewhere but what if this somewhere don't come?what to do ?? how to start !!!!!!! Thanks