Permissions restoring from Time Machine - Finder copy vs "cp" copy

Posted by Ben Challenor on Super User See other posts from Super User or by Ben Challenor
Published on 2011-11-27T13:35:36Z Indexed on 2011/11/27 17:56 UTC
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Note: this question was starting to sprawl so I rewrote it.

I have a folder that I'm trying to restore from a Time Machine backup. Using cp -R works fine, but certain folders cannot be restored with either the Time Machine UI or Finder.

Other users have reported similar errors and the cp -R workaround was suggested (e.g. Restoring from Time Machine - Permissions Error). But I wanted to understand:

  1. Why cp -R works when the Finder and the Time Machine UI do not.
  2. Whether I could prevent the errors by changing file permissions before the backup.

There do indeed seem to be some permissions that Finder works with and some that it does not. I've narrowed the errors down to folders with the user ben (that's me) and the group wheel.

Here's a simplified reproduction. I have four folders with the owner/group combinations I've seen so far:

ben ~/Desktop/test $ ls -lea
total 16
drwxr-xr-x   7 ben   staff   238 27 Nov 14:31 .
drwx------+ 17 ben   staff   578 27 Nov 14:29 ..
 0: group:everyone deny delete
-rw-r--r--@  1 ben   staff  6148 27 Nov 14:31 .DS_Store
drwxr-xr-x   3 ben   staff   102 27 Nov 14:30 ben-staff
drwxr-xr-x   3 ben   wheel   102 27 Nov 14:30 ben-wheel
drwxr-xr-x   3 root  admin   102 27 Nov 14:31 root-admin
drwxr-xr-x   3 root  wheel   102 27 Nov 14:31 root-wheel

Each contains a single file called file with the same owner/group:

ben ~/Desktop/test $ cd ben-staff
ben ~/Desktop/test/ben-staff $ ls -lea
total 0
drwxr-xr-x  3 ben  staff  102 27 Nov 14:30 .
drwxr-xr-x  7 ben  staff  238 27 Nov 14:31 ..
-rw-r--r--  1 ben  staff    0 27 Nov 14:30 file

In the backup, they look like this:

ben /Volumes/Deimos/Backups.backupdb/Ben’s MacBook Air/Latest/Macintosh HD/Users/ben/Desktop/test $ ls -leA
total 16
-rw-r--r--@ 1 ben   staff  6148 27 Nov 14:34 .DS_Store
 0: group:everyone deny write,delete,append,writeattr,writeextattr,chown
drwxr-xr-x@ 3 ben   staff   102 27 Nov 14:51 ben-staff
 0: group:everyone deny add_file,delete,add_subdirectory,delete_child,writeattr,writeextattr,chown
drwxr-xr-x@ 3 ben   wheel   102 27 Nov 14:51 ben-wheel
 0: group:everyone deny add_file,delete,add_subdirectory,delete_child,writeattr,writeextattr,chown
drwxr-xr-x@ 3 root  admin   102 27 Nov 14:52 root-admin
 0: group:everyone deny add_file,delete,add_subdirectory,delete_child,writeattr,writeextattr,chown
drwxr-xr-x@ 3 root  wheel   102 27 Nov 14:52 root-wheel
 0: group:everyone deny add_file,delete,add_subdirectory,delete_child,writeattr,writeextattr,chown

Of these, ben-staff can be restored with Finder without errors. root-wheel and root-admin ask for my password and then restore without errors. But ben-wheel does not prompt for my password and gives the error:

The operation can’t be completed because you don’t have permission to access “file”.

Interestingly, I can restore the file from this folder by dragging it directly to my local drive (instead of dragging its parent folder), but when I do so its permissions are changed to ben/staff.

Here are the permissions after the restore for the three folders that worked correctly, and the file from ben-wheel that was changed to ben/staff.

ben ~/Desktop/test-restore $ ls -leA
total 16
-rw-r--r--@ 1 ben   staff  6148 27 Nov 14:46 .DS_Store
drwxr-xr-x  3 ben   staff   102 27 Nov 14:30 ben-staff
-rw-r--r--  1 ben   staff     0 27 Nov 14:30 file
drwxr-xr-x  3 root  admin   102 27 Nov 14:31 root-admin
drwxr-xr-x  3 root  wheel   102 27 Nov 14:31 root-wheel

Can anyone explain this behaviour? Why do Finder and the Time Machine UI break with the ben / wheel permissions? And why does cp -R work (even without sudo)?

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