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• When does a cached website refresh?

  - by user142485

  If i go to example.com [placeholder for different website] it creates the numerous cache entries in the browser for different items on the page and two entries for example.com. One of which expires in 1.5hrs and the other has 'No expiration time.' What I am wondering is: when does the browser display the cached page and when does it get the newest version from the server (when re-visiting the site)? What do the two different expiration times for the top level domain mean? A web page I went to was temporarily redirecting to a different page. After it was back up, I was still getting redirected to the temp page even though the correct page was up. Would this have eventually resolved itself based on expiration times or does the cache need to be cleared?

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• openVAS - Microsoft RDP Server Private Key Information Disclosure Vulnerability - false Alarm?

  - by huebkov

  I performed a openVAS scan on a Windows Server 2008 R2 and got a report for a high threat level vulnerability called Microsoft RDP Server Private Key Information Disclosure Vulnerability. An remote attacker could perform a man-in-the-middle attack to gain access to a RDP session. Affected Software is Microsoft RDP 5.2 and below. My server uses RDP 7.1, is this alarm a false alarm? Security Advisor Pages say: Solution Status Unpatched, No remedy... References http://secunia.com/advisories/15605/ http://xforce.iss.net/xforce/xfdb/21954/ http://www.oxid.it/downloads/rdp-gbu.pdf CVE: CVE-2005-1794 BID:13818

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• Someone tried to hack my Node.js server, need to understand a GET request in the logs

  - by Akay

  Alright, so I left my Node.js server alone for a while and came back to find some really interesting stuff in the logs. Apparently some moron from China or Poland tried to hack my server using directory traversal and what not, while it seems though he did not succeed I am unable understand few entries in the log. This is the output of a "hohup.out" file. The attack starts, apparently he is trying to find out some console entry in my server. All of which fail and return a 404. [90mGET /../../../../../../../../../../../ [31m500 [90m6ms - 2b[0m [90mGET /<script>alert(53416)</script> [33m404 [90m7ms[0m [90mGET / [32m200 [90m2ms - 240b[0m [90mGET / [32m200 [90m1ms - 240b[0m [90mGET / [32m200 [90m2ms - 240b[0m [90mGET /pz3yvy3lyzgja41w2sp [33m404 [90m1ms[0m [90mGET /stylesheets/style.css [33m404 [90m0ms[0m [90mGET /index.html [33m404 [90m1ms[0m [90mGET /index.htm [33m404 [90m0ms[0m [90mGET /default.html [33m404 [90m0ms[0m [90mGET /default.htm [33m404 [90m1ms[0m [90mGET /default.asp [33m404 [90m1ms[0m [90mGET /index.php [33m404 [90m0ms[0m [90mGET /default.php [33m404 [90m1ms[0m [90mGET /index.asp [33m404 [90m0ms[0m [90mGET /index.cgi [33m404 [90m0ms[0m [90mGET /index.jsp [33m404 [90m1ms[0m [90mGET /index.php3 [33m404 [90m0ms[0m [90mGET /index.pl [33m404 [90m0ms[0m [90mGET /default.jsp [33m404 [90m0ms[0m [90mGET /default.php3 [33m404 [90m0ms[0m [90mGET /index.html.en [33m404 [90m0ms[0m [90mGET /web.gif [33m404 [90m34ms[0m [90mGET /header.html [33m404 [90m1ms[0m [90mGET /homepage.nsf [33m404 [90m1ms[0m [90mGET /homepage.htm [33m404 [90m1ms[0m [90mGET /homepage.asp [33m404 [90m1ms[0m [90mGET /home.htm [33m404 [90m0ms[0m [90mGET /home.html [33m404 [90m1ms[0m [90mGET /home.asp [33m404 [90m1ms[0m [90mGET /login.asp [33m404 [90m0ms[0m [90mGET /login.html [33m404 [90m0ms[0m [90mGET /login.htm [33m404 [90m1ms[0m [90mGET /login.php [33m404 [90m0ms[0m [90mGET /index.cfm [33m404 [90m0ms[0m [90mGET /main.php [33m404 [90m1ms[0m [90mGET /main.asp [33m404 [90m1ms[0m [90mGET /main.htm [33m404 [90m1ms[0m [90mGET /main.html [33m404 [90m2ms[0m [90mGET /Welcome.html [33m404 [90m1ms[0m [90mGET /welcome.htm [33m404 [90m1ms[0m [90mGET /start.htm [33m404 [90m1ms[0m [90mGET /fleur.png [33m404 [90m0ms[0m [90mGET /level/99/ [33m404 [90m1ms[0m [90mGET /chl.css [33m404 [90m0ms[0m [90mGET /images/ [33m404 [90m0ms[0m [90mGET /robots.txt [33m404 [90m2ms[0m [90mGET /hb1/presign.asp [33m404 [90m1ms[0m [90mGET /NFuse/ASP/login.htm [33m404 [90m0ms[0m [90mGET /CCMAdmin/main.asp [33m404 [90m1ms[0m [90mGET /TiVoConnect?Command=QueryServer [33m404 [90m1ms[0m [90mGET /admin/images/rn_logo.gif [33m404 [90m1ms[0m [90mGET /vncviewer.jar [33m404 [90m1ms[0m [90mGET / [32m200 [90m2ms - 240b[0m [90mGET / [32m200 [90m2ms - 240b[0m [90mGET / [32m200 [90m7ms - 240b[0m [90mOPTIONS / [32m200 [90m1ms - 3b[0m [90mTRACE / [33m404 [90m0ms[0m [90mPROPFIND / [33m404 [90m0ms[0m [90mGET /\./ [33m404 [90m1ms[0m But here is when things start getting fishy. [90mGET http://www.google.com/ [32m200 [90m2ms - 240b[0m [90mGET http://www.google.com/ [32m200 [90m1ms - 240b[0m [90mGET http://www.google.com/ [32m200 [90m1ms - 240b[0m [90mGET /manager/html [33m404 [90m1ms[0m [90mGET /manager/html [33m404 [90m1ms[0m [90mGET http://www.google.com/ [32m200 [90m1ms - 240b[0m [90mGET / [32m200 [90m2ms - 240b[0m [90mGET / [32m200 [90m1ms - 240b[0m [90mGET /robots.txt [33m404 [90m1ms[0m [90mGET /manager/html [33m404 [90m1ms[0m [90mGET http://www.google.com/ [32m200 [90m1ms - 240b[0m [90mGET /manager/html [33m404 [90m1ms[0m [90mGET /manager/html [33m404 [90m1ms[0m [90mGET /manager/html [33m404 [90m0ms[0m [90mGET /manager/html [33m404 [90m1ms[0m [90mGET /manager/html [33m404 [90m3ms[0m [90mGET /manager/html [33m404 [90m0ms[0m [90mGET /manager/html [33m404 [90m1ms[0m [90mGET /manager/html [33m404 [90m1ms[0m [90mGET /manager/html [33m404 [90m0ms[0m [90mGET http://www.google.com/ [32m200 [90m1ms - 240b[0m [90mGET http://37.28.156.211/sprawdza.php [33m404 [90m1ms[0m [90mGET http://www.google.com/ [32m200 [90m1ms - 240b[0m [90mGET /manager/html [33m404 [90m1ms[0m [90mGET http://www.google.com/ [32m200 [90m2ms - 240b[0m [90mHEAD / [32m200 [90m1ms - 240b[0m [90mGET http://www.daydaydata.com/proxy.txt [33m404 [90m19ms[0m [90mHEAD / [32m200 [90m1ms - 240b[0m [90mGET /manager/html [33m404 [90m2ms[0m [90mGET / [32m200 [90m4ms - 240b[0m [90mGET http://www.google.pl/search?q=wp.pl [33m404 [90m1ms[0m [90mGET /manager/html [33m404 [90m0ms[0m [90mHEAD / [32m200 [90m2ms - 240b[0m [90mGET http://www.google.pl/search?q=onet.pl [33m404 [90m1ms[0m [90mHEAD / [32m200 [90m2ms - 240b[0m [90mGET http://www.google.com/ [32m200 [90m1ms - 240b[0m [90mGET http://www.google.pl/search?q=ostro%C5%82%C4%99ka [33m404 [90m1ms[0m [90mGET http://www.google.pl/search?q=google [33m404 [90m1ms[0m [90mGET /manager/html [33m404 [90m1ms[0m [90mGET http://www.google.com/ [32m200 [90m2ms - 240b[0m [90mHEAD / [32m200 [90m2ms - 240b[0m [90mGET /manager/html [33m404 [90m1ms[0m [90mGET /manager/html [33m404 [90m0ms[0m [90mGET / [32m200 [90m2ms - 240b[0m [90mGET http://www.baidu.com/ [32m200 [90m2ms - 240b[0m [90mGET /manager/html [33m404 [90m1ms[0m [90mGET /manager/html [33m404 [90m1ms[0m [90mPOST /api/login [32m200 [90m1ms - 28b[0m [90mGET /web-console/ServerInfo.jsp [33m404 [90m2ms[0m [90mGET /manager/html [33m404 [90m1ms[0m [90mGET http://www.google.com/ [32m200 [90m10ms - 240b[0m [90mGET http://www.google.com/ [32m200 [90m1ms - 240b[0m [90mGET / [32m200 [90m2ms - 240b[0m [90mGET /manager/html [33m404 [90m1ms[0m [90mGET http://proxyjudge.info [32m200 [90m2ms - 240b[0m [90mGET / [32m200 [90m2ms - 240b[0m [90mGET / [32m200 [90m1ms - 240b[0m [90mGET http://www.google.com/ [32m200 [90m3ms - 240b[0m [90mGET http://www.google.com/ [32m200 [90m3ms - 240b[0m [90mGET http://www.baidu.com/ [32m200 [90m1ms - 240b[0m [90mGET /manager/html [33m404 [90m0ms[0m [90mGET /manager/html [33m404 [90m1ms[0m [90mGET http://www.google.com/ [32m200 [90m2ms - 240b[0m [90mHEAD / [32m200 [90m1ms - 240b[0m [90mGET http://www.google.com/ [32m200 [90m1ms - 240b[0m [90mGET http://www.google.com/search?tbo=d&source=hp&num=1&btnG=Search&q=niceman [33m404 [90m2ms[0m So my questions are, how come my server is returning a "200" OK for root level domains? How did the hacker even manage to send a GET request to my server such that "http://www.google.com" shows up in the log while my server is simply an API that works on relative URLs such as "/api/login". And, while I looked up the OPTIONS, TRACE and PROPFIND HTTP requests that my server has logged it would be great if someone could explain what exactly was the hacker trying to achieve by using these verbs? Also what in the world does "[90m [32m [90m1ms - 240b[0m" mean? The "ms" makes sense, probably milliseconds for the request, rest I am unable to understand. Thank you!

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• Filtering downloading a file

  - by Ozgun Sunal

  people. i know there are several types of firewalls operating at different layers of OSI. ACLs(layer 3 firewalls filter based on port numbers and IP addresses), SPI(which examines the patterns of data at layer 3 and realise that data content is malicious or not) and application layer firewalls which is capable of understanding the data at that level. Considering this, i'll give an example and learn what i need to do. Lets say, we have a computer has access to the Internet. i want to download a file or display a web page from a website but block access to the another website/s or downloading. To do this, i cant block access to the web browser on the 3rd party firewall bcos that will shut down all access. ACLs wont already do it. So, which kind of firewall will make it possible to filter specific traffic and how?

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• Is there a way to create a copy-on-write copy of a directory?

  - by BCS

  I'm thinking of a situation where I would have something that creates a copy of a directory, tweaks a few files, and then does some processing on the result. This wold be done fairly often, maybe a few dozen times a day. (The exact use case is testing patch submissions; dupe the code, patch it, build/test/report/etc.) What I'm looking for could be done by creating a new directory structure and populating it with hard links from the origonal. However this only works if all the tools you use delete and recreate files rather than edit them in place. Is there a way to have the file system do copy-on-write for a file? Note: I'm aware that many FSs use COW at a block level (all updates are done via writes to new blocks) but this is not what I want.

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• Where does traffic shaping typically take place?

  - by eekmeter

  As part of upgrading our network infrastructure we are looking to traffic shape our bandwidth since we only have about 3Mb down / 1 Mb up. We're looking to prioritize it so that web browsing gets priority and in the future some VOIP might be added in as well. Internal LAN traffic doesn't need to be controlled just our outbound connection. I've been looking at Cisco hardware and it seems that several of their products do shaping at the core switch, firewall, and router level. I'm wondering where does shaping normally take place? Is it normally done at the router, core switch, or firewall?

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• Can I control Caption sequence numbering from styles other than "Heading "?

  - by Carl Witthoft

  Similar question to Wrong caption using 'Appendix' header style , so the answer may well be "I can't." I created a style called "Appendix" which is based on "Heading 1" , is at "level 1" , and is numbered A,B,C... . I use the standard "Insert Caption" to get Figure or Table captions. I then modded the first field code to be STYLEREF "Appendix" \s and that properly displays the Appendix letter sequence. However, the second field code, SEQ \s 1 refers to the last "Heading 1" . I've tried things like SEQ \s "Appendix" to no avail. Is there any way around this? Should I generate a new "Appendix caption"-ish style which is a "numbered list" and manually set the 'restart at 1' counting in each Appendix?

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• Run 2008 R2 Service under 2000 Domain Account

  - by NoDisassemble

  I'm trying to get a service to run under a domain account. When I try to add the account, I get the error The account name is invalid or does not exist, or the password is invalid for the account name specified I know the account exists and the password is correct. I am also having trouble adding it manually to the "Log on as a service" setting, I get the error An extended error has occured. Failed to save Local Policy Database After a day of research I'm starting to suspect it has to do with it being a 2008 R2 server trying to use a 2000 domain account. I've tried to change the LAN Manager authentication level and the Minimum session security looks okay per my Google digging. I'm not sure what else I can do?

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• Missing files when Windows 7 returns from hibernate w/ dual boot

  - by Arthur N

  I have a dual-boot setup with Ubuntu (lucid) and Windows 7. I have the Windows file system shared on Ubuntu through Samba. Occasionally, I am working on Windows and my machine will go into hibernate (i.e. when the battery level is critical). By default, my GRUB settings boot me into Ubuntu. So when I get back to my PC, sometimes I just hop into Ubuntu instead of going back to Windows. However, if I write any files to the Windows file system during that Ubuntu session, the next time I do go back to Windows (which resumes from hibernate), those files are missing. Obviously, the state of the actual file system and the hibernate snapshot become out of sync, and Windows chooses the hibernate snapshot, overriding any changes I may have made thru Ubuntu. For now, I've disabled the hibernate option in the Windows power settings, but is there any utility I can use to get back some of those missing files?

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• Apache Bench length failures

  - by Laurens

  I am running Apache Bench against a Ruby on Rails XML-RPC web service that is running on Passenger via mod_passenger. All is fine when I run 1000 requests without concurrency. Bench indicates that all requests successfully complete with no failures. When I run Bench again with a concurrency level of 2, however, requests start to fail due to content length. I am seeing failures rates of 70-80% when using concurrency. This should not happen. The requests I am sending to the web service should always results in the same response. I have used cURL to verify that this is in fact the case. My Rails log is not showing any errors as well so I am curious to see what content Bench actually received and interpreted as a failure. Is there any way to print these failures?

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• migration of physical server to a virtual solution, what i have to do?

  - by bibarse

  Hello I'm new in this forum, so i would like that you forgive me for my blissfully and my low English level. I'm a trainee in company one month ago, and my mission is to migrate 3 physicals servers to a virtualization technology. The company edit softwares for E-learning so there are lots of data like videos, flash and compressed (zip). This is some inventory of the servers: OS: Debian, 2 redhat, apache, php/mysql, sendMail/Dovecot, webmin with virtualmin template to create dynamically the web sites because there is no sysadmin ... The future provider will be responsible of to secure, update and create the virtual machines (outsourcing) and with a RedHat OS's. So i want that you help me to choose a virtualisation technologie (for the i prefer KVM of Redhat RHEV, VMWare is expensive), how evaluate the hardware needs (this for evolution of 4 or 5 years) and to elaborate a good planing to don't forget any think. Thank you for your responses.

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• How to effectively secure a dedicated server for intranet use?

  - by Mark

  I need to secure a dedicated server for intranet use, the server is managed so will have software based security, but what other security should be considered for enterprise level security? The intranet is a host for an ECM (Alfresco) managing and storing sensitive documents. As the information is sensitive we are trying to make it as secure as reasonably possible (requirement in UK law). We plan to encrypt the data on the database. It will be connected to via SSL encryption. Should we consider Hardware firewall, Private lan between the application server and database server?

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• Hide a 2nd Monitor from a Programs Print Screen

  - by jasondavis

  I run 2 monitors on a PC that also runs a program for the Freelancing site Elance.com. The program they provide, takes screenshots and uploads them to my account for a client to see at different intervals. My goal is to make the screenshot that the program takes and uploads, to somehow only take a shot of my "Main" or "Defualt" monitor and ignore my 2nd monitor. The main reason is my 2nd monitor generally has private data that I do not displayed to the world on a website. Does anyone know if there is any kind of program or trick I can use that will make it appear that I have 1 monitor when a Screenshot is taken? I am not sure how the program does it and how that works as I am a web developer and not a C++ or any kind of low level programmer. If the Elance program simply runs the same function that is called when a PrintScreen key is pressed on a keyboard, then I am thinking it might be possible to maybe trick that into only the default desktop? Any ideas or help would be appreciated, thank you

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• Fed up of Server Admin - Want career change guidance

  - by JB04

  Hi All, I am SA in top level MNC and what I liked turned out to be my most disliked. I feel that I am capable of doing more than what I am doing at present. This 1 hour , 2 hour SLA is not my kind. I wanna get a better life.. The rotational shift is also something I am hating these days. Awkward shifts and too many process to follow. I have 3 years of Experience. I dont wanna waste this 3 yrs of experience I wanna get into OS developer or kind of so that this three years of experience is not wasted !! Please help me out

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• Rejecting new HTTP requests when server reaches a certain throughput

  - by user56221

  I have a requirement to run an HTTP server that rejects new HTTP requests (with a 503, or similar) when the global transfer rate of current HTTP responses exceeds a certain level. For example, if the web server is transferring at 98Mbps, and a new HTTP request arrives, we would want to reject this (as we couldn't guarantee a good speed). I've had a look at mod_cband for Apache, limit_req for nginx, and lighttpd's rate limiting features, but none of them seem to handle my (rather contrived, granted) use case. I should add that I'm open to using pretty much any web server, and am open to implementing this in iptables rules if someone can craft such a rule! (Refusing the TCP connection is fine, it doesn't have to respond with an HTTP 503). Any suggestions?

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• Started an application through SSH, command line now gone, what happens next?

  - by Chris Dutrow

  Context: This is a very basic question Using Putty and SSH for the first time to do some serious server setup and run into the situation where I have started a process that I do not want to stop. The process is the gunicorn WSGI HTTP Server (running on Centos 6.3). The command I used to start the process is (as per their Quick Start): gunicorn -w 4 myapp:app At this point in the work session, I have lost the command prompt. This must be such a non-issue that it doesn't even enter into an experienced user's consciousness. But unfortunately at my level of experience, I am left with several fundamental questions: Does the fact that I have lost the command prompt mean that the process is still running? How do I get back to the command prompt without killing the process? How do I come back and monitor the process later? How do I eventually kill the process? Any help is appreciated, thanks so much!

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• Hosting solution for sensitive client data

  - by Mark

  Hello, We are developing a web application that will deal with highly sensitive (financial) data of clients (audience is medium to large sized businesses). Clients will be under scrutiny from regulators & auditors and, as such, we will be too. More importantly to give clients a level of comfort our application and related hosting arrangement should instill a lot of confidence with them. We are looking into using a cloud based service like Linode, Amazon EC2, etc. To allow for maximum flexibility We are keen on putting everything on virtual servers and avoiding having to buy our own hardware. Does a cloud based service make sense for our particular scenario? If not what type of hosting should we consider? If so what should we look out for? Thanks!

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• How can I tell if a host is bridged and acting as a router

  - by makerofthings7

  I would like to scan my DMZ for hosts that are bridged between subnets and have routing enabled. Since I have everything from VMWare servers, to load balancers on the DMZ I'm unsure if every host is configured correctly. What IP, ICMP, or SNMP (etc) tricks can I use to poll the hosts and determine if the host is acting as a router? I'm assuming this test would presume I know the target IP, but in a large network with many subnets, I'd have to test many different combinations of networks and see if I get success. Here is one example (ping): For each IP in the DMZ, arp for the host MAC Send a ICMP reply message to that host directed at an online host on each subnet I think that there is a more optimal way to get the information, namely from within ICMP/IP itself, but I'm not sure what low level bits to look for. I would also be interested if it's possible to determine the "router" status without knowing the subnets that the host may be connected to. This would be useful to know when improving our security posture.

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• Linux (Ubuntu) USB Auth

  - by themicahmachine

  I want to be able to authenticate with PAM using a USB drive with a file on it. I've read about how to do this with a PAM module that reads the specific USB hardware ID of a device, but if the device malfunctions or is lost, there would be no way to authenticate. I would prefer to use the method BitLocker uses, requiring a particular file to be found on the drive in order to authenticate. That way I can keep another drive in a secure location as a backup. Any other suggestions are welcome. I just want to require a higher level of security that just a password.

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• ASUS N550 laptop not charging on ubuntu after updating kernel

  - by OBY Trance

  I'm using Ubuntu 13.10 on a pretty new ASUS N550jv laptop. When I was using kernel linux-image-3.11.0-11 everything was quite well (kinda..), however, when I updated the kernel using the automatic update, the kernels which were released afterwards (12+) were faulty on my machine, and caused the battery not to be charged and only stay at their current charging level (even when the machine was off!) The only fix I had was to roll-back to the '..11' version (on boot screen - advanced options), and hard-reboot (AC cord disconnected and reconnected) but now version 14 was released and "pushed away" the good old version 11. How can I fix that?? Please help me...

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• How can I disable write protection in my USB flash drive?

  - by 97847658

  My USB flash drive is currently unusable because it somehow (quite suddenly!) became write protected. I have googled around and tried many solutions to this problem, but none of them have worked so far. Here are some of the solutions I've tried: The drive has no tangible switch or button. Formatting the drive won't work, even in command line, even "low level formatting", because the drive is (after all) write protected. Changing certain registry keys to 0 doesn't seem to work. Repair_Neo2.9.exe says "USB Flash Disk not found!" One factor that may make it more difficult to find a solution: I have no idea what the make or model is, because I received the USB flash drive from my university as a gift. So if anyone knows how to find the make and model, that alone might be helpful. Any ideas? Thanks.

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• Our company has 100,000s+ photos, how to store and browse/find these efficiently?

  - by tobefound

  We currently store our photos in a structure like this: folder\1\10000 - 19999.JPG|ORF|TIF (10 000 files) folder\2\20000 - 29999.JPG|ORF|TIF (10 000 files) etc... They are stored on 4 different 2TB D-link NASes attached and shared on our office network (\\nas1, \\nas2, and so on...) Problems: 1) When a client (Windows only, Vista and 7) wishes to browse the let's say \\nas1\folder\1\ folder, performance is quite poor. A problem. List takes a long time to generate in explorer window. Even with icons turned off. 2) Initial access to the NAS itself is sometimes slow. Problem. SAN disks too expensive for us. Even with iSCSI interface/switch technology. I've read a lot of tech pages saying that storing 100 000+ files in one single folder shouldn't be a problem. But we don't dare go there now that we experience problems on a 10K level. All input greatly appreciated, /T

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• php.ini settings change not taking effect for large file uploads

  - by user51347

  My server was just reprovisioned, and my application which uploads large (100M+) files now breaks upon re-installation. the symptom is quite consistent : smaller files (8mb in my tests) upload just fine. Larger files cut off at quite close to the same point every time given a particular computer. a file that fails at 26% will fail at just about the same every time. One that takes 1:40s to fail will take within 2 seconds of that every time, before failure. I have set my php.ini settings extravagently : post_max_size = 512M upload_max_filesize = 512M max_input_time = 3600 max_execution_time 3600 Is there possibly a setting at the Apache Level which would override PHP?

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• SSL encryption standards by browser

  - by hfidgen

  Hiya, Does anyone have a table of the default levels of encryption which the various browsers out there support? For instance I know that IE5 and lower struggle even to cope with 40 bit encryption but the latest browsers easily do 256 and beyond. The reason I ask is that I'm looking to get a wildcard certificate for my domain and the price difference is huge between a server gated certificate (where it enforces a minimum of 128bit) and a non-gated certificate (where the browser sets the encryption level). Obviously I like the idea of paying £300 less for the non-gated certificate, but only if I can be sure that the majority of my users (FF3 / Opera / Chrome / IE7+) are going to get good encryption.

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• How do you do the offsite hard drive backups?

  - by kentchen

  I have been doing hard drive backups for a while, which I believe a lot of you guys do as well, but am having trouble figuring out a better way storing them offsite. I am wondering how you guys out there do that. Any policy or tips & tricks when it comes to offsite store your backups, mainly hard drives not tapes. Thanks in advance. [update] Thanks for mentioning the online backup. We are actually in the middle of this process. And I 100% agree that it's the ultimate way to go. However, considering the cost, sometimes it may not be the option, as it's a quite expensive option if you also consider the application level. I guess online backup can be a very good one in the separate topic. :)

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