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  • Google Public DNS is not used in trace route

    - by IT researcher
    In my PC i am using google public DNS as DNS server.In Internet protocol(TCP/IP) properties i have set Preferred DNS server as 8 8 4 4 and Alternate DNS server as 8 8 8 8. According to me this DNS server should be used to resolve any request to website to its IP by using this DNS servers.(see google DNS and How Domain Name Servers Work). But when i checked trace route to a website in my PC i got following Tracing route to www.google.com [74.125.236.80] over a maximum of 30 hops: 1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 192.168.1.201 2 360 ms 349 ms 292 ms 122.178.216.1 3 145 ms 107 ms 148 ms 122.166.32.121 4 32 ms 53 ms 120 ms 122.166.32.9 5 45 ms 42 ms 121 ms 122.175.255.29 6 63 ms 76 ms 51 ms 182.79.255.45 7 52 ms 134 ms 61 ms 72.14.194.22 8 86 ms 59 ms 72 ms 72.14.232.202 9 106 ms 107 ms 60 ms 66.249.94.39 10 101 ms 103 ms 117 ms 209.85.249.235 11 148 ms 224 ms 276 ms 74.125.236.80 Trace complete. When i checked all these IP in who.is i found that it is of my ISP. So my question is where does Google public DNS is used? Also how come my ISP's nameserver is used even if i set google public dns as my dns server in my PC?(OR does my any settings are wrong)

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  • Traceroute to IP address fails, but traceroute to domain name with same IP address is okay. Why?

    - by tomo
    When I traceroute to this IP (108.162.198.181) it stops after 1 hop. But tracerouting to a domain (www.gomodule.com) with the same IP shows 9 hops ending in that target. traceroute to www.gomodule.com (108.162.198.81), 64 hops max, 52 byte packets 1 192.168.1.1 (192.168.1.1) 131.667 ms 48.532 ms 48.837 ms 2 118.69.255.124 (118.69.255.124) 91.521 ms 79.177 ms 30.679 ms 3 42.117.11.225 (42.117.11.225) 30.270 ms 32.091 ms 29.698 ms 4 118.69.253.213 (118.69.253.213) 32.234 ms 118.69.253.237 (118.69.253.237) 70.667 ms 118.69.253.213 (118.69.253.213) 82.440 ms 5 118.69.253.245 (118.69.253.245) 64.554 ms 80.277 ms 130.224 ms 6 118.69.251.205 (118.69.251.205) 65.635 ms 118.69.249.78 (118.69.249.78) 133.234 ms 118.69.251.205 (118.69.251.205) 224.111 ms 7 118.69.251.249 (118.69.251.249) 156.679 ms 111.965 ms 64.165 ms 8 cloudflare1-rge.hkix.net (202.40.160.246) 64.102 ms 64.498 ms 74.581 ms 9 108.162.198.81 (108.162.198.81) 66.873 ms 67.426 ms 69.054 ms -vs- traceroute to 108.162.198.181 (108.162.198.181), 64 hops max, 52 byte packets 1 192.168.1.1 (192.168.1.1) 96.588 ms 3.003 ms 4.976 ms 2 118.69.255.124 (118.69.255.124) 45.223 ms 31.449 ms 31.225 ms 3 * * * 4 * * * 5 * * * 6 * * * 7 * * * 8 * * * 9 * * * 10 * * * ...

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  • Access FTPS from behind Forefront TMG

    - by Maxim V. Pavlov
    I have a web server on which IIS 7 host an SSL-enabled site. The client in am trying to connect with is behind the corporate Forefront TMG. The app is Total Commander - a file manager shell, that has the ability to connect to SSL FTP by putting a checkmark over SSL/TLS in the FTP connection settings. When FTP Access Filter in FF is enabled, my connection attempt fails on Negociating TLS step of FTP connection. The same happens even if I enable Allow Active FTP in the filter's settings. But when I disable the FTP Access Filter on FF completely, I am able to connect fine. How to configure FF TMG to allow FTPS?

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  • Unable to upload a file.

    - by user39438
    We are not able to uplod a file into a sharepoint 2007 document library, suspect that it could be due to Forefront, have you faced this issue, if so, please let me know that how did you fix the issue. the funny part is, it is allowing us to upload a file sometimes (not always).

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  • Need a piece of advice about e-mail automation in ms exchange + ms office environment

    - by be here now
    Hi, guys. I need your help in the following simple situation. I've got an MS Exchange server and some client computers running on XP with Office 2003 installed. And I've got a process I need to automate. Twice a day a known list of people sends an e-mail to a certain mailbox (let's call it manager's mailbox) - basically, an accomplishment report. After recieving letters from all of these people the mailbox owner sends and e-mail to another mailbox, meaning that a certain process is done. What I need to do is to replace this manager's mailbox with a depersonalized mailbox that will accumulate all the reports and automatically send a message after collecting all of them. I am definitely not in a "oh my God, what shold I do?" situation, and currently my imagination shows me a couple of ways to solve this problem, which I'm going to try, and I'm not ascking for a ready solution. But since I'm not experienced in Office/VBA developement, I'd like to ask a corresponding pro's opinion. Can you point me to a right direction from the best practices' point of view?

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  • MS Visual Studio 2008 Certified with Oracle EBS 12 on MS Windows Server (32-bit)

    - by Steven Chan
    Microsoft Visual Studio 2008 is now certified with Oracle E-Business Suite Release 12 (12.0.4 or higher, 12.1.1 or higher) as a release maintenance tool. Previously, Microsoft Visual Studio 2005 was required for E-Business Suite Release 12. The editions of Visual Studio 2008 covered by this announcement are:Microsoft Visual Studio 2008 StandardMicrosoft Visual Studio 2008 Professional Microsoft Visual Studio 2008 Team Microsoft Visual C++ 2008 Express (part of Visual Studio 2008 Express Edition) The operating systems supported by Visual Studio 2008 on this platform are:Microsoft Windows Server 2003 (for EBS 12.0.4, 12.1.1) Microsoft Windows Server 2008 (for EBS 12.1.1 only)

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  • Microsoft Forefront Endpoint Protection 2010 sort en version RTM avec un nouveau moteur anti-malwares

    Microsoft Forefront Endpoint Protection 2010 sort en version RTM Pour les constructeurs et les revendeurs, elle embarque un nouveau moteur anti-malwares Microsoft vient d'annoncer la disponibilité pour les constructeurs et revendeurs (version RTM) de Forefront Endpoint Security 2010, sa solution d'administration unifiée pour la protection contre les malwares pour les serveurs et les postes de travail des entreprises. En Release Candidate depuis novembre, cette version s'appuie sur « System Center Configuration Manager 2007 », facilitant ainsi le déploiement au niveau des entreprises ayant déjà mis en place des infrastructures de gestion des postes clients de Microsoft. Fore...

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  • Updating MS - Access fields through MS-Excel cells

    - by SpikETidE
    Hi everyone.... Consider that i have an excel workbook and an access table not necessarily having a similar structure (i.e. They may not have same number of columns) When i open the workbook the rows in the excel sheet get populated by the rows in access table (copied from the access table into the excel sheet's particular range of cells specified using macros). Then i modify certain cells in the excel sheet. I also have a button called "Save" in the excel sheet. When pressed, this will execute a macro. My question how can i update the access table to reflect the changes in the excel sheet when the save button is clicked...? Thanks for your time and suggestions...!

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  • RFC 1918 address on open internet?

    - by longneck
    In trying to diagnose a failover problem with my Cisco ASA 5520 firewalls, I ran a traceroute to www.btfl.com and, much to my surprise, some of the hops came back as RFC 1918 addresses. Just to be clear, this host is not behind my firewall and there is no VPN involved. I have to connect across the open internet to get there. How/why is this possible? asa# traceroute www.btfl.com Tracing the route to 157.56.176.94 1 <redacted> 2 <redacted> 3 <redacted> 4 <redacted> 5 nap-edge-04.inet.qwest.net (67.14.29.170) 0 msec 10 msec 10 msec 6 65.122.166.30 0 msec 0 msec 10 msec 7 207.46.34.23 10 msec 0 msec 10 msec 8 * * * 9 207.46.37.235 30 msec 30 msec 50 msec 10 10.22.112.221 30 msec 10.22.112.219 30 msec 10.22.112.223 30 msec 11 10.175.9.193 30 msec 30 msec 10.175.9.67 30 msec 12 100.94.68.79 40 msec 100.94.70.79 30 msec 100.94.71.73 30 msec 13 100.94.80.39 30 msec 100.94.80.205 40 msec 100.94.80.137 40 msec 14 10.215.80.2 30 msec 10.215.68.16 30 msec 10.175.244.2 30 msec 15 * * * 16 * * * 17 * * * and it does the same thing from my FiOS connection at home: C:\>tracert www.btfl.com Tracing route to www.btfl.com [157.56.176.94] over a maximum of 30 hops: 1 1 ms <1 ms <1 ms myrouter.home [192.168.1.1] 2 8 ms 7 ms 8 ms <redacted> 3 10 ms 13 ms 11 ms <redacted> 4 12 ms 10 ms 10 ms ae2-0.TPA01-BB-RTR2.verizon-gni.net [130.81.199.82] 5 16 ms 16 ms 15 ms 0.ae4.XL2.MIA19.ALTER.NET [152.63.8.117] 6 14 ms 16 ms 16 ms 0.xe-11-0-0.GW1.MIA19.ALTER.NET [152.63.85.94] 7 19 ms 16 ms 16 ms microsoft-gw.customer.alter.net [63.65.188.170] 8 27 ms 33 ms * ge-5-3-0-0.ash-64cb-1a.ntwk.msn.net [207.46.46.177] 9 * * * Request timed out. 10 44 ms 43 ms 43 ms 207.46.37.235 11 42 ms 41 ms 40 ms 10.22.112.225 12 42 ms 43 ms 43 ms 10.175.9.1 13 42 ms 41 ms 42 ms 100.94.68.79 14 40 ms 40 ms 41 ms 100.94.80.193 15 * * * Request timed out.

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  • MS Access group development

    - by Hubidubi
    We are planning to redesign quite a huge MS Access application. Is there any way to work concurently on the same application or is it possible to merge two seperate instance of the same file (not the data, but the forms and code). Now Access contains the data, but in the future version MySQL will host the data and Access will be only the frontend (via ODBC)

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  • MS Access Draw line around detail section that can grow

    - by LanguaFlash
    This really shouldn't be hard, I just can't figure out how to do it. I am making a proposal report that needs to have a border around it. The problem is to get the vertical lines on the side. I can't figure out how to get a line to grow and shrink based on the height of the detail section. I have used Crystal reports and sure wish Microsoft would learn a few things in regards to MS Access report writing! I am very comfortable with VBA so have no fears there. :-) Thanks, Jeff

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  • Splitting MS Access Database - Front End Part Location

    - by kristof
    One of the best practices as specified by Microsoft for Access Development is splitting Access application into 2 parts; Front End that hold all the object except tables and the Back End that holds the tables. The msdn page links there to the article Splitting Microsoft Access Databases to Improve Performance and Simplify Maintainability that describes the process in details. It is recommended that in multi user environment the Back End is stored on the server/shared folder while the Front End is distributed to each user. That implies that each time there are any changes made to the front end they need to be deployed to every user machine. My question is: Assuming that the users themselves do not have rights to modify the Front End part of the application what would be the drawbacks/dangers of leaving this on the server as well next to the Back End copy? I can see the performance issues here, but are there any dangers here like possible corruptions etc? Thank you EDIT Just to clarify, the scenario specified in question assumes one Front End stored on the server and shared by users. I understand that the recommendation is to have FE deployed to each user machine, but my question is more about what are the dangers if that is not done. E.g. when you are given an existing solution that uses the approach of both FE and BE on the server. Assuming the the performance is acceptable and the customer is reluctant to change the approach would you still push the change? And why exactly? For example the danger of possible data corruption would definitely be the strong enough argument, but is that the case? It is a part of follow up of my previous question From SQL Server to MS Access 2007

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  • Migrating 2008 AD to Windows SBS 2011 and Forefront TMG 2010

    - by Tong Wang
    Our company has two physical servers: a Dell R710 with 4 NIC and a Dell R410 with 2 NIC. Right now, we have Windows server 2008 R2 installed on R710 with AD setup to host our domain. I am thinking to install both SBS 2011 and TMG 2010 on the other R410 running on Hyper-V. As I am fairly new to Windows Server technology, I'd like to check with you fellow Windows admins and see what is the proper way to install SBS 2011 and TMG 2010 and how to migrate the 2008 AD. Your advice and help will be highly appreciated.

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  • Forefront TMG: Can you monitor realtime TCP connections and bandwidth on a per-user basis?

    - by user65235
    I'm just starting a trial of ForeFront TMG to use as a proxy server. I know I can get a real time activity monitor and filter on a per user basis, but would like to be able to get a real time activity monitor of all users that I can then sort by bandwidth consumed (enabling me to get a view on who the bandwidth hogs are). Does anyone know if this is possible in Forefront TMG or if a third party product is required? Thanks. JR

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  • Traceroute comparison and statistics

    - by ben-casey
    I have a number of traceroutes that i need to compare against each other but i dont know the best way to do it, ive been told that hash maps are a good technique but i dont know how to implement them on my code. so far i have: FileInputStream fstream = new FileInputStream("traceroute.log"); // Get the object of DataInputStream DataInputStream in = new DataInputStream(fstream); BufferedReader br = new BufferedReader(new InputStreamReader(in)); String strLine; // reads lines in while ((strLine = br.readLine()) != null) { System.out.println(strLine); } and the output looks like this: Wed Mar 31 01:00:03 BST 2010 traceroute to www.bbc.co.uk (212.58.251.195), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets 1 139.222.0.1 (139.222.0.1) 0.873 ms 1.074 ms 1.162 ms 2 core-from-cmp.uea.ac.uk (10.0.0.1) 0.312 ms 0.350 ms 0.463 ms 3 ueaha1btm-from-uea1 (172.16.0.34) 0.791 ms 0.772 ms 1.238 ms 4 bound-from-ueahatop.uea.ac.uk (193.62.92.71) 5.094 ms 4.451 ms 4.441 ms 5 gi0-3.norw-rbr1.eastnet.ja.net (193.60.0.21) 4.426 ms 5.014 ms 4.389 ms 6 gi3-0-2.chel-rbr1.eastnet.ja.net (193.63.107.114) 6.055 ms 6.039 ms * 7 lond-sbr1.ja.net (146.97.40.45) 6.994 ms 7.493 ms 7.457 ms 8 so-6-0-0.lond-sbr4.ja.net (146.97.33.154) 8.206 ms 8.187 ms 8.234 ms 9 po1.lond-ban4.ja.net (146.97.35.110) 8.673 ms 6.294 ms 7.668 ms 10 bbc.lond-sbr4.ja.net (193.62.157.178) 6.303 ms 8.118 ms 8.107 ms 11 212.58.238.153 (212.58.238.153) 6.245 ms 8.066 ms 6.541 ms 12 212.58.239.62 (212.58.239.62) 7.023 ms 8.419 ms 7.068 ms what i need to do is compare this trace against another one just like it and look for the changes and time differences etc, then print a stats page.

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  • MS Access 2003 - Embedded Excel Spreadsheet on Access form

    - by Justin
    lets say I have an embedded Excel Spreadsheet on a Microsoft Access form. I call the object frame ExcelFrame and I add a text box on the form called txtA1 and I add a button on the form called cmdInsert I want to type "Hello World" into the text box, click the button and have it appear in the A1 cell on that spreadsheet. What VBA do I use to accomplish this? Thanks

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  • MS Access 2003 - ordering the string values for a chart not alphabetical

    - by Justin
    Here is a silly question. Lets say I have a query that produces for a list box, and it produces values for three stores Store A 18 Store B 32 Store C 54 Now if I ORDER BY in the sql statement the only thing it will do is descending or ascending alphabetically but I want a certain order (only because THEY WANT A CERTAIN ORDER) .....so is there a way for me to add something to the SQL to get Store B Store C Store A i.e. basically row by row what i want. thanks!

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  • MS Access 2003 - Message Box: How can I answer "ok" automatically through code

    - by Justin
    So a couple silly questions: If I include this in some event: MsgBox " ", vbOkOnly, "This little message box" could I then with some more code turn around and 'click the ok button. So that basically the message boox automatically pops up, and then automatically goes away? I know its silly because you want to know, why do you want the message box then..... well a) i just want to know if you can do that, and what would be the command b) i have some basic shapes (shape objects) that are made visible when the message box appears. But without having the message box there, there is no temporary disruption of code while waiting for the button to be clicked, and therefor those pretty image objects being made visible does take effect on the the form. So I really do not need the message box, just the temp disruption that shows the objects. Thanks!

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  • 6to4 tunnel: cannot ping6 to ipv6.google.com?

    - by quanta
    Hi folks, Follow the Setup of 6to4 tunnel guide, I want to test ipv6 connectivity, but I cannot ping6 to ipv6.google.com. Details below: # traceroute 192.88.99.1 traceroute to 192.88.99.1 (192.88.99.1), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets 1 static.vdc.vn (123.30.53.1) 1.514 ms 2.622 ms 3.760 ms 2 static.vdc.vn (123.30.63.117) 0.608 ms 0.696 ms 0.735 ms 3 static.vdc.vn (123.30.63.101) 0.474 ms 0.477 ms 0.506 ms 4 203.162.231.214 (203.162.231.214) 11.327 ms 11.320 ms 11.312 ms 5 static.vdc.vn (222.255.165.34) 11.546 ms 11.684 ms 11.768 ms 6 203.162.217.26 (203.162.217.26) 42.460 ms 42.424 ms 42.401 ms 7 218.188.104.173 (218.188.104.173) 42.489 ms 42.462 ms 42.415 ms 8 218.189.5.10 (218.189.5.10) 42.613 ms 218.189.5.42 (218.189.5.42) 42.273 ms 42.300 ms 9 d1-26-224-143-118-on-nets.com (118.143.224.26) 205.752 ms d1-18-224-143-118-on-nets.com (118.143.224.18) 207.130 ms d1-14-224-143-118-on-nets.com (118.143.224.14) 206.970 ms 10 218.189.5.150 (218.189.5.150) 207.456 ms 206.349 ms 206.941 ms 11 * * * 12 10gigabitethernet2-1.core1.lax1.he.net (72.52.92.121) 214.087 ms 214.426 ms 214.818 ms 13 192.88.99.1 (192.88.99.1) 207.215 ms 199.270 ms 209.391 ms # ifconfig tun6to4 tun6to4 Link encap:IPv6-in-IPv4 inet6 addr: 2002:x:x::/16 Scope:Global inet6 addr: ::x.x.x.x/128 Scope:Compat UP RUNNING NOARP MTU:1480 Metric:1 RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:0 errors:11 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:11 collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 RX bytes:0 (0.0 b) TX bytes:0 (0.0 b) # iptunnel sit0: ipv6/ip remote any local any ttl 64 nopmtudisc tun6to4: ipv6/ip remote any local x.x.x.x ttl 64 # ip -6 route show ::/96 via :: dev tun6to4 metric 256 expires 21332777sec mtu 1480 advmss 1420 hoplimit 4294967295 2002::/16 dev tun6to4 metric 256 expires 21332794sec mtu 1480 advmss 1420 hoplimit 4294967295 fe80::/64 dev eth0 metric 256 expires 15674592sec mtu 1500 advmss 1440 hoplimit 4294967295 fe80::/64 dev eth1 metric 256 expires 15674597sec mtu 1500 advmss 1440 hoplimit 4294967295 fe80::/64 dev tun6to4 metric 256 expires 21332794sec mtu 1480 advmss 1420 hoplimit 4294967295 default via ::192.88.99.1 dev tun6to4 metric 1 expires 21332861sec mtu 1480 advmss 1420 hoplimit 4294967295 # ping6 -n -c 4 ipv6.google.com PING ipv6.google.com(2404:6800:8005::68) 56 data bytes From 2002:x:x:: icmp_seq=0 Destination unreachable: Address unreachable From 2002:x:x:: icmp_seq=1 Destination unreachable: Address unreachable From 2002:x:x:: icmp_seq=2 Destination unreachable: Address unreachable From 2002:x:x:: icmp_seq=3 Destination unreachable: Address unreachable --- ipv6.google.com ping statistics --- 4 packets transmitted, 0 received, +4 errors, 100% packet loss, time 2999ms What is my problem? Thanks,

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  • Can't change data type on MS Access 2007

    - by khalidfazeli
    Hi All, I have a huge database (800MB) which consists of a field called 'Date Last Modified' at the moment this field is entered as a text data type but need to change it to a Date/Time field to carry out some queries. I have another exact same database but with only 35MB of data inside it and when I change the data type it works fine, but when I try to change data type on big database it gives me an error: Micorosoft Office Access can't change the data type. There isn't enough disk space or memory After doing some research some sites mentioned of changing the registry file (MaxLocksPerFile) tried that as well, but no luck :-( Can anyone help please?

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  • Cannot access a very specific site from my router

    - by DJDarkViper
    This is a problem for me because this site is important to me. It's MY website. And sadly my email is hosted on my site (which I cant access either) When I try to access my website when connected to my Linksys E3000 router, these days it simply just doesn't go through. When I ping it, its all Request Timed Out, and when I tracert C:\Users\Kyle>tracert blackjaguarstudios.com Tracing route to blackjaguarstudios.com [199.188.204.228] over a maximum of 30 hops: 1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms CISCO26565 [192.168.1.1] 2 16 ms 15 ms 11 ms 11.4.64.1 3 11 ms 9 ms 11 ms rd1cs-ge1-2-1.ok.shawcable.net [64.59.169.2] 4 20 ms 21 ms 22 ms 66.163.76.98 5 37 ms 36 ms 35 ms rc1nr-tge0-9-2-0.wp.shawcable.net [66.163.77.54] 6 112 ms 84 ms 85 ms rc2ch-pos9-0.il.shawcable.net [66.163.76.174] 7 86 ms 89 ms 90 ms rc4as-ge12-0-0.vx.shawcable.net [66.163.64.46] 8 90 ms 84 ms 85 ms eqix.xe-3-3-0.cr2.iad1.us.nlayer.net [206.223.115.61] 9 97 ms 97 ms 99 ms xe-3-3-0.cr1.atl1.us.nlayer.net [69.22.142.105] 10 128 ms 128 ms 126 ms ae1-40g.ar1.atl1.us.nlayer.net [69.31.135.130] 11 101 ms 97 ms 96 ms as16626.xe-2-0-5-102.ar1.atl1.us.nlayer.net [69.31.135.46] 12 100 ms 97 ms 197 ms 6509-sc1.abstractdns.com [207.210.114.166] 13 * * * Request timed out. 14 * * * Request timed out. 15 * * * Request timed out. 16 * * * Request timed out. 17 * * * Request timed out. 18 * * * Request timed out. 19 * * * Request timed out. 20 * * * Request timed out. 21 * * * Request timed out. 22 * * * Request timed out. 23 * * * Request timed out. 24 * * * Request timed out. 25 * * * Request timed out. 26 * * * Request timed out. 27 * * * Request timed out. 28 * * * Request timed out. 29 * * * Request timed out. 30 * * * Request timed out. Trace complete. C:\Users\Kyle> SHAW Cable being my ISP. Figuring this was all something to do with some setting I made on the router, I reset the thing back to factory defaults. Nope. So I'm at a bit of a loss what to do here, as NO device (Computers, Laptops, Tablets, Phones, PS3/ 360, etc) can access my site or its features, so it's not just my computer either. But every other site is just fine. When I connect to my neighbors router, the site comes up just fine. And shes with SHAW as well. What should I do?!

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  • MS Access form_current() firing multiple times

    - by Eric G
    I have a form with two subforms (on separate tab pages). It's an MDB project in Access 2003. When it initially opens, Form_Current on the active subform fires once, as it should. But when you move to another record (ie. from the main form), it fires Form_Current on the active subform 4 times. Then subsequent record-moves result in Form_Current firing 2 times. This is a pain, because the subforms have a lot of fields that get moved and/or hidden and so it jumps around for every Form_Current, not to mention being slow. I am opening the form with a filter via DoCmd.OpenForm (actually it sends the filter in via OpenArgs). FilterOn is only set once, in Form_Open on the main form, never in the subforms. Form_Current is not called explicitly anywhere else in the code. When I look at the call stack when Form_Current fires moving the first time, it looks like: my_subform.Form_Current [<Debug Window>] my_subform.Form_Current So it seems like something in Form_Current is triggering another Form_Current event. But only on the first record move. The code in Form_Current is somewhat complex, involving custom classes and event callbacks, but generally does not touch the table data. The only thing I can think might be triggering a Form_Current is that it checks OldValue on form controls - could this be causing it? Or anything else come to mind? Thanks. Eric

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