This was originally posted in stackoverflow.com but it was suggested I move it here after it was realized it wasn't my code that was wrong. So my problem, very simply, is that I cannot get my computers that are connected to my router to communicate. example: If I ping a wireless computer I get no responce and the Request times out If I ping a computer wired to the modem directly it works fine. When I ping I use the local ip for each case. *if it helps my original post is here: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/12593024/python-cannot-go-over-internet-network/12593361#12593361 And some screen shots of different things are here: http://imgur.com/a/jUZ4G#3 thank you, any help is greatly appreciated. NOTE I am heading off to bed now, so I will respond around 6:00 AM EST if anyone posts some help