Hello I'm confuse about objects that I can't save, simplified model is class Subscription < ActiveRecord::base belongs_to :user, :class_name => "User", :foreign_key => "user_id" has_many :transactions, :class_name => "SubscriptionTransaction" validates_presence_of :first_name, :message => "ne peut être vide" validates_presence_of :last_name, :message => "ne peut être vide" validates_presence_of :card_number, :message => "ne peut être vide" validates_presence_of :card_verification, :message => "ne peut être vide" validates_presence_of :card_type, :message => "ne peut être vide" validates_presence_of :card_expires_on, :message => "ne peut être vide" attr_accessor :card_number, :card_verification validate_on_create :validate_card def validate_card unless credit_card.valid? credit_card.errors.full_messages.each do |message| errors.add_to_base message end end end def credit_card @credit_card ||= ActiveMerchant::Billing::CreditCard.new( :type => card_type, :number => card_number, :verification_value => card_verification, :month => card_expires_on.month, :year => card_expires_on.year, :first_name => first_name, :last_name => last_name ) end end and in my subscription_controller if subscription.save # do something else debugger # means breakpoint where i try subscription.errors.full_messages # do something else end I tried to use ruby-debug for this adding a breakpoint before. And subscription.valid? return false which explains that ActiveRecord doesn't allow the save method. Unfortunately i can't know why the object is invalid. subscription.errors.full_messages # => [] I'm stucked, if you have any idea, thank you.